Kelly Patrick
He is a pathological liar
Oct 17, 2017, 10:58 AM
Kelly Patrick
I haven't. John will lie and deceit anyone he can.
Oct 17, 2017, 10:57 AM
Susan Kasaris
Qq
Oct 17, 2017, 10:56 AM
Susan Kasaris
Ok. I cant talk . I asked you not to talk about our convo.
Oct 17, 2017, 10:56 AM
Kelly Patrick
I didn't say that at all. I said dan is working on himself. Never once mentioned alcohol counseling. John made that up
Oct 17, 2017, 10:55 AM
Susan Kasaris
Why are you sending John an email that Dan is in alcohol counseling! I did not say that I said he goes to counseling. Please stop!
Oct 17, 2017, 10:52 AM
Kelly Patrick
Same goes for you.
Oct 17, 2017, 10:47 AM
Kelly Patrick
I would never.
Oct 17, 2017, 10:47 AM
Susan Kasaris
Or we cannot talk
Oct 17, 2017, 10:46 AM
Susan Kasaris
Please dont repeat what i say
Oct 17, 2017, 10:46 AM
Kelly Patrick
We don't talk, so he knows nothing about my life
Oct 17, 2017, 9:13 AM
Kelly Patrick
No
Oct 17, 2017, 9:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
Does John know that we talk
Oct 17, 2017, 9:07 AM
Kelly Patrick
Good
Oct 17, 2017, 9:01 AM
Susan Kasaris
Not really
Oct 17, 2017, 8:49 AM
Kelly Patrick
Has he said anything negative about us talking?
Oct 17, 2017, 8:48 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes he knows that we do chat occasionally I haven't told him a whole lot though
Oct 17, 2017, 8:36 AM
Kelly Patrick
Does dan know we talk?
Oct 17, 2017, 8:23 AM
Susan Kasaris
I understand
Oct 16, 2017, 11:19 AM
Kelly Patrick
We follow our hearts and what feels right. I don't want John back as a mate, but I would like him healthy for the kids.
Oct 16, 2017, 11:19 AM
Susan Kasaris
You 2
Oct 16, 2017, 11:18 AM
Kelly Patrick
Thanks for listening to me.
Oct 16, 2017, 11:18 AM
Susan Kasaris
Idk
Oct 16, 2017, 11:05 AM
Kelly Patrick
Wonder if John noticed a difference
Oct 16, 2017, 10:58 AM
Susan Kasaris
He still drinks he's just not drinking as much
Oct 16, 2017, 10:57 AM
Susan Kasaris
He said he drank but I don't know if he drink a lot
Oct 16, 2017, 10:56 AM
Kelly Patrick
Did Dan drink when they went to the Browns game?
Oct 16, 2017, 10:56 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes
Oct 16, 2017, 10:51 AM
Kelly Patrick
Holy shit. We do have a good life compared to that stuff
Oct 16, 2017, 10:43 AM
Susan Kasaris
My neighbors daughter has died of cancer and she was 21
Oct 16, 2017, 10:28 AM
Susan Kasaris
No one should have to deal with this. But the way I look at it is we are all healthy and other people have much worse problems in life
Oct 16, 2017, 10:26 AM
Kelly Patrick
Gosh, I hope my kids aren't dealing with this when they are older.
Oct 16, 2017, 10:23 AM
Susan Kasaris
I think they've just had it with the whole thing in.. And are just tired of it all and don't really care anymore
Oct 16, 2017, 10:21 AM
Kelly Patrick
What do the girls say?
Oct 16, 2017, 10:16 AM
Susan Kasaris
It just feels like we should be together
Oct 16, 2017, 10:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
I feel like i am crazy. But i cant let go
  • ๐Ÿ˜ฎSusan Kasaris
Oct 16, 2017, 10:12 AM
Susan Kasaris
There are days i cannot even think about it..but i cant let go
Oct 16, 2017, 10:12 AM
Susan Kasaris
It is extremely difficult
Oct 16, 2017, 10:11 AM
Kelly Patrick
Wow!!! That's great. I'm happy to hear that. I know how hard that had to have been to take that first step to go to counseling.
Oct 16, 2017, 10:10 AM
Susan Kasaris
He wants to come back home
Oct 16, 2017, 10:08 AM
Susan Kasaris
He went on his own
Oct 16, 2017, 10:07 AM
Susan Kasaris
Counseling
Oct 16, 2017, 10:07 AM
Kelly Patrick
Absolutely. How is dan doing it? Is he going to counseling or on his own?
Oct 16, 2017, 10:06 AM
Susan Kasaris
You tried
Oct 16, 2017, 10:05 AM
Susan Kasaris
Take a step away... that's what i am seeing
He has help himself
Oct 16, 2017, 10:05 AM
Kelly Patrick
It's so sad for them to deal with this. Brayden thought for sure John would listen to him.
Oct 16, 2017, 10:04 AM
Susan Kasaris
There you go
Oct 16, 2017, 10:04 AM
Kelly Patrick
He does want left alone. He's said that numerous times. He said that last night in front of the kids. He wants no one to tell him what to do. He's 51, if he wants to drink and smoke he will.
Oct 16, 2017, 10:03 AM
Susan Kasaris
He wants to be left alone..i guess. Idk
Oct 16, 2017, 10:02 AM
Susan Kasaris
Just keep up what you are doing. Dont let him affect you
Oct 16, 2017, 10:02 AM
Kelly Patrick
I'm not perfect but I'm doing my best and trying to manage all this stuff happening to them, and me. He is much sicker than I thought.
Oct 16, 2017, 10:01 AM
Susan Kasaris
You saw what Brayden wrote about you for his project. That says it all!
Oct 16, 2017, 10:00 AM
Susan Kasaris
All you can do is be the best Mom you can and live your life . Try to ignore what john is doing and focus on you and the kids. Maybe john will notice
Oct 16, 2017, 9:59 AM
Kelly Patrick
We all have stress
Oct 16, 2017, 9:51 AM
Susan Kasaris
They both have very stressful jobs. The drinking is so they could stop thinking about their jobs for a while
Oct 16, 2017, 9:51 AM
Kelly Patrick
It's not easy, I give him props for trying. At least he acknowledges it.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:50 AM
Susan Kasaris
Dan is trying and I do see results
Oct 16, 2017, 9:49 AM
Kelly Patrick
They don't know how to control it and manage it.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:49 AM
Susan Kasaris
He went tailgating with his cousins and he did like 10 shots and I was very pissed off at him... it was just ridiculous. He admitted he got carried away
Oct 16, 2017, 9:48 AM
Kelly Patrick
Trying is at least a start. John won't even try.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:48 AM
Susan Kasaris
Dans drinking bothers me. He didnt drink at all this weekend. He is trying and thats is why i am trying
Oct 16, 2017, 9:48 AM
Susan Kasaris
Omg
Oct 16, 2017, 9:47 AM
Kelly Patrick
He refuses to believe it. He put a tv in the kitchen and he sits at the table watching the news drinking his beer, just like Manuel did.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:46 AM
Susan Kasaris
Dan throws fits at times. Childish fits. It is weird. He told me he is working on it
Oct 16, 2017, 9:46 AM
Susan Kasaris
What did he say
Oct 16, 2017, 9:45 AM
Kelly Patrick
We don't have parent teacher conferences. He acts just like Manuel. I've told him that many times.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:42 AM
Susan Kasaris
- it seems like a lot of this Behavior they got from Manuel
Oct 16, 2017, 9:18 AM
Susan Kasaris
Does he go to any parent-teacher visits
Oct 16, 2017, 9:17 AM
Kelly Patrick
Brayden was in a fetal position and John was standing over him screaming.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:17 AM
Kelly Patrick
It's the smoking, the drinking, and his negative behavior.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:17 AM
Susan Kasaris
Is the main concern the drinking?
Oct 16, 2017, 9:16 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes that's what you sent me as well
Oct 16, 2017, 9:16 AM
Kelly Patrick
The kids confronted John last night about his drinking and his abusive behavior towards them. John chose not to listen to them and blamed me instead. Accused me of manipulating and brainwashing them. They tried to tell him it's their choice, but he didn't listen. He said he's 51 yrs old and he doesn't have to listen to anyone. They are completely distraught that their dad treated them this way, and they've asked to start counseling to help them process why John is behaving this way. Brayden thought that John would listen to him and get help. It's sad they had to witness what he did last night, but now they know just how sick he is. The kids chose not to go over his house anymore because they don't want to be around him. He screamed and yelled at them, and me. He is very sick and needs help.
  • ๐Ÿ˜ฎSusan Kasaris
Oct 16, 2017, 9:15 AM
Kelly Patrick
Ohio law has no age limit, it goes by maturity
Oct 16, 2017, 9:15 AM
Kelly Patrick
This morning. I'll copy and paste what I sent them.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:15 AM
Susan Kasaris
But since the kids are under 13 I don't think the kids can make a choice if they want to see him or not
Oct 16, 2017, 9:15 AM
Susan Kasaris
When did you text Dan
Oct 16, 2017, 9:14 AM
Kelly Patrick
I texted Dan and Paul what happened and that the kids are choosing not to see him anymore.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
Oh thats good
Oct 16, 2017, 9:13 AM
Kelly Patrick
I can take them. We've done it before. Brayden went to counseling when he was younger.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
I'm not sure but this John have to agree to consoling them as well or can you just take them
Oct 16, 2017, 9:07 AM
Kelly Patrick
This happened at his house last night. And yes, Brayden has finally agreed to counseling. I've been asking them for months and they kept saying no. After last night Brayden said he wants to talk to someone. He is so shocked John behaved that way.
Oct 16, 2017, 9:02 AM
Susan Kasaris
I am sorry to hear of this! Did this take place at your house? So the kids told John they didn't want him srinking and smoking? It seems like you should all go to family counseling together if he refuses to even acknowledge their opinion
Oct 16, 2017, 8:23 AM
Kelly Patrick
We talked to John tonight. He didn't listen to the kids at all, he said he's 51 and he doesn't have to listen to anyone. If he wants to drink and smoke cigars in his own house, he will. They cried telling him they are worried about him and his behavior, he screamed at them and accused me of brainwashing him. They told him unless he changes they don't want to go over to his house anymore. He told them he's taking us to court and he'll have the court decide what to do. Brayden screamed and ran to his room, afraid the court will take the kids away from me. We finally had to leave because John was threatening and scaring them. The kids are traumatized witnessing that, they can't believe he said he doesn't care what they think and say, that he will do what he wants. They thought for sure he'd say he would change.
Oct 15, 2017, 11:26 PM
Susan Kasaris
Its true
Oct 12, 2017, 4:45 PM
Susan Kasaris
Heidi told me that
Oct 12, 2017, 4:45 PM
Susan Kasaris
Pat steers them away from. Women so she can have them to herself!
Oct 12, 2017, 4:44 PM
Kelly Patrick
No respect and no manners. But they're grown men now, at some point he has to grow up and make his own choices. He's been attached to Pat lately and it's disturbing. He has no one else, just her.
Oct 12, 2017, 4:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
This all goes back to the way Pat raise them. No manners
Oct 12, 2017, 4:04 PM
Kelly Patrick
Next year parents can't coach, Brayden is looking forward to that. He used to like John being the coach, not anymore.
Oct 12, 2017, 4:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
Oh no
Oct 12, 2017, 3:59 PM
Kelly Patrick
John is the coach
Oct 12, 2017, 3:57 PM
Susan Kasaris
Have Brayden talk to coach. Maybe the coach can advise him that sometimes parents go overboard and have him ignore it
Oct 12, 2017, 3:56 PM
Susan Kasaris
I think you should talk to him. But find out what the coach thinks 1st
Oct 12, 2017, 3:56 PM
Kelly Patrick
But the kids are not expecting much and are prepared for the worst.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:54 PM
Kelly Patrick
We are planning to soon.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:54 PM
Susan Kasaris
Did you talk to John about it?
Oct 12, 2017, 3:54 PM
Kelly Patrick
It's been really tough here. I'm so fucking stressed out, the kids are stressed out. I wish I could take them and run away.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:53 PM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. That is ridiculous
Oct 12, 2017, 3:53 PM
Susan Kasaris
Wow
Oct 12, 2017, 3:52 PM
Kelly Patrick
It's not appropriate to talk to your children the way john talks to brayden. Like when dan called Demi fat, that's not acceptable. It fucks with the kids and will ruin the relationship
Oct 12, 2017, 3:50 PM
Kelly Patrick
He loves football. He knows John isn't happy with him and expects him to be perfect, which gives him a complex as it is. John constantly tells brayden how he's a pussy and weak.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:49 PM
Susan Kasaris
Maybe its a guy thing
Oct 12, 2017, 3:49 PM
Susan Kasaris
Really loud
Oct 12, 2017, 3:49 PM
Susan Kasaris
The guy across the street is constantly yelling at his sons about football!!
Oct 12, 2017, 3:48 PM
Susan Kasaris
He did just start last minth didnt he? Does he like it? What did his coach say?
Oct 12, 2017, 3:47 PM
Susan Kasaris
Did Brayden do good
Oct 12, 2017, 3:46 PM
Kelly Patrick
No, right after the football game. Totally sober.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:46 PM
Susan Kasaris
Was he drinking?
Oct 12, 2017, 3:45 PM
Kelly Patrick
Brayden sobbed his eyeballs out the other night. I feel helpless most of the time, I wish I could punch John in the face.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
Oh. I see
Oct 12, 2017, 3:43 PM
Kelly Patrick
What do you mean? She was here two weekends ago. Not last weekend when John berated him.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:41 PM
Susan Kasaris
What did Pat say aboit Brayde n?
Oct 12, 2017, 3:40 PM
Kelly Patrick
I'll tell you everything after we talk to him, I can't risk telling you now and Dan getting this information and telling John.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:40 PM
Kelly Patrick
I took the kids
Oct 12, 2017, 3:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
He just said John wanted Alyssa to watch kids but they had to work
Oct 12, 2017, 3:35 PM
Susan Kasaris
I was unloading groceries
Oct 12, 2017, 3:33 PM
Kelly Patrick
Dan say anything about John?
Oct 12, 2017, 3:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
Yes!!
Oct 12, 2017, 3:23 PM
Kelly Patrick
That's pathetic
Oct 12, 2017, 3:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
She wants Jack back
Oct 12, 2017, 3:22 PM
Susan Kasaris
Thats good she apologized
Oct 12, 2017, 3:22 PM
Kelly Patrick
If John would agree to get help, I'd stick by his side. So I understand what you're doing. Yes Pat was up and she apologized to me for what she did.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
I heard Pat was over there last week
Oct 12, 2017, 3:17 PM
Susan Kasaris
I don't know. I can't read the future because I'm not a genie in the bottle... I just feel like I need to work on it because that's what I feel in my heart so I feel like I need to try again 4 me
Oct 12, 2017, 3:16 PM
Kelly Patrick
Of course. I hope Dan continues with his good side, but I know from experience they don't last long because their good side isn't their true side
Oct 12, 2017, 3:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
Jack got married and now Jack wants to get a divorce
Oct 12, 2017, 3:14 PM
Susan Kasaris
I feel like Dan is showing me his really good side right now. I hope that he doesn't sway back to another side
Oct 12, 2017, 3:13 PM
Kelly Patrick
We have a plan, just don't know what to expect.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:12 PM
Susan Kasaris
I Know Dan went to the Browns game with them last weekend
Oct 12, 2017, 3:11 PM
Susan Kasaris
I wish there was something I could do
Oct 12, 2017, 3:11 PM
Kelly Patrick
Kyla feels bad for Brayden and I because John's so mean to us. He ignores Kyla most of the time.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:10 PM
Kelly Patrick
Screamed and yelled and swore at Brayden for how poorly he played
Oct 12, 2017, 3:10 PM
Kelly Patrick
Last week he told him he played horrible football and looked like a fool. Wouldn't let him do anything with his friends until he plays better football
Oct 12, 2017, 3:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
Does Kyla have a lot of friends?
Oct 12, 2017, 3:09 PM
Susan Kasaris
How is he abusing Brayden?
Oct 12, 2017, 3:08 PM
Susan Kasaris
Braden looks so cute playing football
Oct 12, 2017, 3:07 PM
Kelly Patrick
Brayden mostly, but Kyla hates her life she says.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:07 PM
Kelly Patrick
Because John's abusing them.
Oct 12, 2017, 3:07 PM
Susan Kasaris
Oh my God. I'm so sorry. Are they crying because you and John are apart?
Oct 12, 2017, 3:06 PM
Kelly Patrick
Good!! I'm the opposite, it's falling apart here. Getting worse by the day. Kids are crying daily now
Oct 12, 2017, 3:05 PM
Susan Kasaris
We are communicating a lot and just taking one day at a time
Oct 12, 2017, 3:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
Hi, things are going well
Oct 12, 2017, 3:00 PM
Kelly Patrick
How's it going?
Oct 12, 2017, 2:29 PM
Susan Kasaris
Jun 20, 2017, 10:46 AM
Kelly Patrick
We're both doing good despite what's going on. Strong women!!
Jun 20, 2017, 10:45 AM
Susan Kasaris
I am just me. Living my life to be happy. That is all we can do. Thank you though. You are raising great kids. Keep it up
Jun 20, 2017, 10:29 AM
Kelly Patrick
You're a good woman Susan. Thank you for all your support.
Jun 20, 2017, 10:27 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes
Jun 20, 2017, 9:30 AM
Kelly Patrick
That's great. Life is different now, we're different. We can lead by example.
Jun 20, 2017, 9:29 AM
Susan Kasaris
Knows
Jun 20, 2017, 9:28 AM
Susan Kasaris
I guess I dont care if Dan k ows anymore
Jun 20, 2017, 9:28 AM
Kelly Patrick
What made you change your mind?
Jun 20, 2017, 9:26 AM
Susan Kasaris
Ok
Jun 20, 2017, 9:24 AM
Kelly Patrick
Fb friends?!
Jun 20, 2017, 8:52 AM
Susan Kasaris
I get it
Jun 19, 2017, 4:41 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't want John to go, I'll have more fun without him. He's been abusing/manipulating Brayden. I had to teach Brayden how to be strong and stand up to him. We all want peace from him.
Jun 19, 2017, 4:33 PM
Susan Kasaris
I don't know. I never really asked him he was thinking about going for the weekend but we went to Seattle and it was too far we already had our tickets
Jun 19, 2017, 3:50 PM
Kelly Patrick
Why didn't Dan go on vacation with you guys?
Jun 19, 2017, 3:13 PM
Kelly Patrick
We have our vacation in a few weeks. As of right now John isn't going.
Jun 19, 2017, 9:23 AM
Susan Kasaris
Idk. 50/50. It is better he didnt.
Jun 19, 2017, 9:02 AM
Kelly Patrick
Did you want him to go on vacation with you?
Jun 19, 2017, 9:01 AM
Susan Kasaris
I don't talk to Pat.
Jun 19, 2017, 8:54 AM
Susan Kasaris
He didn't go on vacation with us
Jun 19, 2017, 8:53 AM
Susan Kasaris
We have been seeing each other and talking and getting along
Jun 19, 2017, 8:52 AM
Kelly Patrick
How's it going with you and Dan?
Jun 19, 2017, 8:52 AM
Susan Kasaris
I have not spoken to Pat for her about six months.
Jun 19, 2017, 8:51 AM
Kelly Patrick
Yeah, and two weeks before she made that comment we spent 4 hrs together at Brayden's baseball game talking. Fuck her. She's a miserable woman, as is John. They deserve each other. Funny how John rarely talked to her and saw her and now they are best friends. Must be a lonely life if all you have is your mom.
Jun 19, 2017, 8:49 AM
Susan Kasaris
Crazy
Jun 19, 2017, 8:47 AM
Kelly Patrick
Bet you she doesn't lecture him about staying home with his kids.
Jun 19, 2017, 8:46 AM
Kelly Patrick
John's going to Vegas next week, he just told me about it last week.
Jun 19, 2017, 8:45 AM
Kelly Patrick
5-6 days a week.
Jun 19, 2017, 8:45 AM
Susan Kasaris
How often do you have kids
Jun 19, 2017, 8:39 AM
Kelly Patrick
I went hiking with my friend and posted pictures. She commented and said I should be with my kids, did I forget about them.
Jun 19, 2017, 8:33 AM
Susan Kasaris
She can't comment on mine because she's blocked she can't see any of my pictures
Jun 19, 2017, 8:31 AM
Susan Kasaris
What did she comment on.
Jun 19, 2017, 8:30 AM
Kelly Patrick
Yeah, she's a bitch.
Jun 19, 2017, 8:02 AM
Susan Kasaris
What? Omg
Jun 19, 2017, 8:00 AM
Kelly Patrick
She posted a bitchy comment on my fb page about me being a bad mother. I blocked her and called her and yelled at her
Jun 19, 2017, 7:55 AM
Susan Kasaris
Dan stays there once a week
Jun 19, 2017, 7:55 AM
Susan Kasaris
Well now that Jack's got married she needs someone to talk to
Jun 19, 2017, 7:54 AM
Kelly Patrick
John talks to her regularly now and took the kids to see her the other day.
Jun 19, 2017, 7:54 AM
Susan Kasaris
Heidi said that yrs ago. She wants her sons all to herself
Jun 19, 2017, 7:53 AM
Kelly Patrick
I've noticed. And John and her are best friends now. She's all he has.
Jun 19, 2017, 7:52 AM
Susan Kasaris
She creates a lot of drama
Jun 19, 2017, 7:51 AM
Kelly Patrick
I finally see her as the bitch she is.
Jun 19, 2017, 7:47 AM
Susan Kasaris
Lol
Jun 19, 2017, 7:44 AM
Kelly Patrick
Good for him. Get away from Pat.
Jun 19, 2017, 7:40 AM
Susan Kasaris
Some girl named Debbie
Jun 19, 2017, 7:38 AM
Kelly Patrick
Who did Jack marry?
Jun 19, 2017, 7:30 AM
Susan Kasaris
All you can do is be you. One day at a time
Jun 19, 2017, 7:28 AM
Kelly Patrick
It's really rough in my world right now. No, I didn't know Jack got married.
Jun 19, 2017, 7:25 AM
Susan Kasaris
Did you know Jack got married!
Jun 18, 2017, 11:26 PM
Susan Kasaris
How was fathers day
Jun 18, 2017, 11:25 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't think anyone can ever accept how sick John is, it'd be a reflection on them in some way too.
May 14, 2017, 10:41 PM
Kelly Patrick
John knows how to show the world a good side of him.
May 14, 2017, 10:40 PM
Susan Kasaris
Idk. Im not there
May 14, 2017, 10:40 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan doesnt think John drinks a lot
May 14, 2017, 10:39 PM
Kelly Patrick
Yes, I could tell. I am honest, I told her last time I saw her how bad John was getting. I told her yesterday too. And I told her I'm going alone on vacation. She was supportive and told me I'll do just fine.
May 14, 2017, 10:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
Yes ..it was a Grandma card
May 14, 2017, 10:38 PM
Susan Kasaris
Do you think she is embarrassed of what her sons did?
May 14, 2017, 10:38 PM
Kelly Patrick
That's nice. She told me you sent her one too.
May 14, 2017, 10:37 PM
Kelly Patrick
I know, that's the irony of this, he's just like him.
May 14, 2017, 10:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
She sent me a Mothers Day daughter card
May 14, 2017, 10:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
John hates jack
May 14, 2017, 10:36 PM
Kelly Patrick
Yeah I saw her yesterday at Brayden's game. I realized that John is just like Jack. She told me to just focus on me and do my own thing.
May 14, 2017, 10:35 PM
Susan Kasaris
I heard Pat was there for 3 days
May 14, 2017, 10:34 PM
Susan Kasaris
How was ur dAy
May 14, 2017, 10:33 PM
Susan Kasaris
Happy Mother's Day to u too!
May 14, 2017, 4:04 PM
Kelly Patrick
Happy Mother's Day!
May 14, 2017, 12:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
Oh. I see
Apr 16, 2017, 10:23 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't talk to anyone, even John. I made a mistake of telling John I talk to a coach he knows. He said something to the coach and now he won't talk to me anymore. My parents live in Florida.
Apr 16, 2017, 9:05 PM
Susan Kasaris
I don't know what he tells them. Ok?
Apr 16, 2017, 9:04 PM
Susan Kasaris
Just between u and I. Don't really want Dan's family knowing stuff.
Apr 16, 2017, 9:03 PM
Susan Kasaris
Oh nice. Don't you go to your parents?
Apr 16, 2017, 9:02 PM
Kelly Patrick
Wow!! Ours was good, we went hiking on the east side. Just the kids and I, and our dog.
Apr 16, 2017, 9:01 PM
Susan Kasaris
It was nice. Dan went to mass with us. How was yours?
Apr 16, 2017, 8:59 PM
Kelly Patrick
How was your day? Pictures look nice.
Apr 16, 2017, 8:54 PM
Kelly Patrick
I know, but it's the truth.
Apr 16, 2017, 9:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
Uuuggghh..so tired of hearing that...haha
Apr 16, 2017, 9:10 AM
Kelly Patrick
Think positive thoughts, find the great things in your life today, and less focus on Dan and what you don't have.
Apr 16, 2017, 9:04 AM
Kelly Patrick
Thankfully Easter isn't something we ever celebrated. I'm doing ok.
Apr 16, 2017, 9:03 AM
Susan Kasaris
Uuggh.....holidays get to me!
Apr 16, 2017, 9:02 AM
Kelly Patrick
I know, same here. I can't tell anyone what I really feel. Well just you!
Apr 16, 2017, 8:55 AM
Susan Kasaris
People think I am crazy to give Dan the time of day! They just don't understand
Apr 16, 2017, 8:51 AM
Susan Kasaris
I never thought of it like that
Apr 16, 2017, 8:51 AM
Kelly Patrick
They are in worse pain than us, I can promise you that. Our pain is different from theirs. We know how to make ourselves feel better, they don't.
Apr 16, 2017, 8:40 AM
Susan Kasaris
But I am tired of the pain. Ot is not fair
Apr 16, 2017, 8:36 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. For sure
Apr 16, 2017, 8:36 AM
Kelly Patrick
Somehow it's helping us. We're growing into stronger women. We're stronger than them.
Apr 16, 2017, 8:35 AM
Susan Kasaris
I wonder why we have to put up with all of this!
Apr 16, 2017, 8:33 AM
Kelly Patrick
Happy Easter to you!!
Apr 16, 2017, 8:07 AM
Susan Kasaris
Apr 16, 2017, 8:04 AM
Susan Kasaris
Oh wow.... that is a lot to take
Apr 14, 2017, 1:54 PM
Kelly Patrick
He said he was the absolute perfect man of a husband and no one wants him to be with me because I am a horrible wife and mother. Then in the same breath he tells me how he would love our family back together and he's planning to buy a house.
Apr 14, 2017, 1:13 PM
Kelly Patrick
He was sober, I caught him off guard when I went to drop the kids off. I've been asking to talk but he continues to ignore me, so sometimes I had to just do it when the time is right for me.
Apr 14, 2017, 1:12 PM
Susan Kasaris
When Dan drinks...he acts totally different!
Apr 14, 2017, 1:07 PM
Susan Kasaris
When was that? Was he drinking?
Apr 14, 2017, 1:06 PM
Kelly Patrick
That's what I told him. He kept going back and forth with me, one minute he wants to work with me, the next he says he can't do it. Finally after almost 2 hrs I left in anger and we haven't talked since.
Apr 14, 2017, 12:53 PM
Susan Kasaris
Join the club
Apr 14, 2017, 12:52 PM
Kelly Patrick
Getting hurt. That's John's fear.
Apr 14, 2017, 12:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
Fear of what????
Apr 14, 2017, 11:38 AM
Kelly Patrick
All fear
Apr 14, 2017, 11:03 AM
Kelly Patrick
Fear.
Apr 14, 2017, 11:03 AM
Susan Kasaris
It's like they refuse to give it ALL
Apr 14, 2017, 10:52 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes
Apr 14, 2017, 10:50 AM
Kelly Patrick
Do whatever they want.
Apr 14, 2017, 10:46 AM
Susan Kasaris
It's like they think we have osmosis
Apr 14, 2017, 10:44 AM
Kelly Patrick
I do all that too, but I still feel unsettled about John. He told me the other day his plan is to buy a new house and let me know when it's ready for me to move in. I laughed, how absurd.
Apr 14, 2017, 10:43 AM
Susan Kasaris
Hey. I have felt like that before but now I am feeling a lot better about my life I think I'm just concentrating on my job and it's making me happy
Apr 14, 2017, 10:42 AM
Kelly Patrick
I feel robotic
Apr 14, 2017, 10:40 AM
Susan Kasaris
Maybe Dan wasn't I don't know
Apr 14, 2017, 10:39 AM
Susan Kasaris
I was just on a train and never thought about being unhappy so I guess I was happy
Apr 14, 2017, 10:39 AM
Kelly Patrick
That's easy to do.
Apr 14, 2017, 10:39 AM
Susan Kasaris
I guess I was Raising for kids and I was so busy did not time to think about myself
Apr 14, 2017, 10:38 AM
Kelly Patrick
John is so far off the deep end, I really don't know how he functions.
Apr 14, 2017, 10:37 AM
Susan Kasaris
Idk
Apr 14, 2017, 10:37 AM
Kelly Patrick
Good stuff?
Apr 14, 2017, 10:36 AM
Susan Kasaris
Just taking 1 day at a time....... I am realizing a lot about myself and my relationships that I did not know
Apr 14, 2017, 10:36 AM
Kelly Patrick
How are you doing? Any progress or change?
Apr 14, 2017, 10:30 AM
Kelly Patrick
Not at this moment in time.
Apr 14, 2017, 9:57 AM
Susan Kasaris
Is he going to go on vacation with you
Apr 14, 2017, 9:51 AM
Kelly Patrick
Super busy is good! It's been a little rocky in my world with John, but I'm trying to stay afloat.
Apr 14, 2017, 9:19 AM
Susan Kasaris
Hi Kelly. How's it going? I have been super busy with work and Alyssa volleyball
Apr 14, 2017, 9:12 AM
Kelly Patrick
No rush.
Mar 22, 2017, 7:38 AM
Susan Kasaris
I will get those clothes to you...I have been crazy busy
Mar 22, 2017, 6:43 AM
Susan Kasaris
Thank you. It was a rough few days. He was a great dog :(
Mar 22, 2017, 6:41 AM
Kelly Patrick
Sorry about Zack.
Mar 21, 2017, 9:26 PM
Kelly Patrick
Yes!!!
Mar 12, 2017, 9:49 AM
Susan Kasaris
I have some coats and dresses from the girls. Would you want them for Kyla?
Mar 12, 2017, 8:39 AM
Kelly Patrick
Sure is.
Mar 9, 2017, 8:27 PM
Susan Kasaris
Yw
Mar 9, 2017, 8:27 PM
Susan Kasaris
Life is strange...
Mar 9, 2017, 8:26 PM
Kelly Patrick
Thank you for listening. Sitting alone in the bathroom crying and you're the one that helps me out. Thank you.
Mar 9, 2017, 8:20 PM
Susan Kasaris
Agree!
Mar 9, 2017, 8:16 PM
Kelly Patrick
I plan to leave him be. He can sit home alone while the kids and I live life. It'll come back to haunt him in some way.
Mar 9, 2017, 8:11 PM
Kelly Patrick
He wants to be alone so no one will bother him about his drinking and he can do whatever he wants.
Mar 9, 2017, 8:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
What does he want? Just to be alone? I don't get it. Maybe just leave him be. Idk
Mar 9, 2017, 8:09 PM
Kelly Patrick
Very. I spend so much of my life crying and trying to coparent with a man who wants nothing good for me and our family.
Mar 9, 2017, 8:08 PM
Susan Kasaris
Uugghhhhhh
Mar 9, 2017, 8:03 PM
Susan Kasaris
It is so emotional....all of this
Mar 9, 2017, 8:03 PM
Susan Kasaris
Thats good
Mar 9, 2017, 8:01 PM
Kelly Patrick
Not at all. I invited my friend to go with me on vacation. I don't want him around.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:54 PM
Susan Kasaris
Is that what you want?
Mar 9, 2017, 7:53 PM
Kelly Patrick
No he doesn't, just wants to go on yearly vacations together.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:53 PM
Susan Kasaris
It appears he has no desire to be a couple from what you say. I dont know.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:52 PM
Kelly Patrick
Found this article tonight. That's exactly John's behavior towards me. He bullies me, he lies to me, he's mean to me.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:46 PM
Kelly Patrick
IP Address: 24.252.242.230
Mar 9, 2017, 7:46 PM
Kelly Patrick
I was. But this past week he's been brutal to me. He told me Monday he has no desire, time, and energy to talk to me and be a couple with me. He says he's doing nothing wrong and the kids are great. I'm the one that is the problem and he can't subject himself to me and be around me.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan is a big spender too....Pat never taught them finance
Mar 9, 2017, 7:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
They have this control over us...uugghh
Mar 9, 2017, 7:43 PM
Susan Kasaris
That is how old Alyssa was when Dan left the 1st time. She is affected a lot! Don't you get alimony? Just concentrate on you. I thought you were doing well for awhile.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:43 PM
Kelly Patrick
I'm trying the best I can. I'm working my ass off literally to make ends meet. While John spends thousands on his house and buys them whatever they want.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:40 PM
Kelly Patrick
It is too much for them to handle. Moms are supposed to be strong and in control. He's going to be 11.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:40 PM
Susan Kasaris
How old is Brayden
Mar 9, 2017, 7:24 PM
Susan Kasaris
It is toooo much for the kids to watch. Alyssa has seen my attacks too often. It sucks
Mar 9, 2017, 7:24 PM
Kelly Patrick
With me. Brayden just talked me through my troubles. He gets it.
Mar 9, 2017, 7:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
Where are the kids
Mar 9, 2017, 7:22 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know the feeling. What is he doing now?
Mar 9, 2017, 7:14 PM
Susan Kasaris
Im sorry!
Mar 9, 2017, 7:13 PM
Kelly Patrick
Sitting on my bathroom floor crying. I really don't want this hard life anymore. I can't understand why I have to be connected to a mean and nasty alcoholic who just wants to hurt me?
Mar 9, 2017, 7:06 PM
Kelly Patrick
He agreed to go on vacation in July with us, and I really don't know how that'll work. Last year was a colossal mistake.
Mar 3, 2017, 12:05 PM
Kelly Patrick
Yes, me too. I'm angry at John.
Mar 3, 2017, 12:05 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan & I
Mar 3, 2017, 12:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
I guess i mean it is both of our faults
Mar 3, 2017, 11:59 AM
Kelly Patrick
What do you mean?
Mar 3, 2017, 11:52 AM
Susan Kasaris
I think it takes 2
Mar 3, 2017, 10:45 AM
Kelly Patrick
Do you think Dan blames you? John blames me and lashes out at me.
Mar 3, 2017, 10:24 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. We are all adults now
Mar 3, 2017, 10:19 AM
Kelly Patrick
Truth
Mar 3, 2017, 9:43 AM
Susan Kasaris
Mar 3, 2017, 9:20 AM
Kelly Patrick
Julie is a wreck too, gets off telling others what to do.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:54 AM
Susan Kasaris
Wtheck...lol
Feb 23, 2017, 7:39 AM
Susan Kasaris
Pressed wrong button
Feb 23, 2017, 7:39 AM
Susan Kasaris
You missed a video chat with a contact.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:39 AM
Susan Kasaris
And she won't talk to Pat.....yet they listen to her.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:38 AM
Susan Kasaris
See....he listens to her too. I don't get it. She hasn't been home for Christmas in 10 yrs
Feb 23, 2017, 7:38 AM
Kelly Patrick
Julie told John I was crazy. I don't like Julie at all.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:35 AM
Susan Kasaris
Julie told Dan to leave so he listened. Do you talk to her
Feb 23, 2017, 7:19 AM
Kelly Patrick
Yes. I've dumped John multiple times. All the time actually.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:16 AM
Susan Kasaris
I didn't know you left.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:14 AM
Kelly Patrick
Well I left John. He's never wanted me to leave. But yes, they are big babies.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
They r being big babies
Feb 23, 2017, 7:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. Dan too. But they left us.....so duh
Feb 23, 2017, 7:12 AM
Kelly Patrick
Abandonment
Feb 23, 2017, 7:11 AM
Kelly Patrick
John told me he has a fear of being left.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:11 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes....I know that about Men....so they need to understand it and move on
Feb 23, 2017, 7:11 AM
Susan Kasaris
Why are we frickin spending our time analyzing them. We r nuts! ....
Feb 23, 2017, 7:10 AM
Kelly Patrick
Men aren't raised to be open and forthcoming with their feelings and thoughts. They're taught to suppress them and act like they have no emotions. Showing emotions, in John's eyes, is a sign of weakness.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:10 AM
Susan Kasaris
Pat sheltered them from Jack....yes. for sure. She cut the line of communication. Awful!
Feb 23, 2017, 7:09 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. I have been working on myself too :)
Feb 23, 2017, 7:08 AM
Susan Kasaris
Mmmmm....why do u think men have a harder time......women need support too
Feb 23, 2017, 7:07 AM
Susan Kasaris
Everyone has problems
Feb 23, 2017, 7:06 AM
Kelly Patrick
Men have a harder time than women. I realized my issues from my past too, been working on myself lately.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:06 AM
Susan Kasaris
Besides...they are 50 ur old men....they need to accept it and move on. Jeez I have issues from my parents!
Feb 23, 2017, 7:05 AM
Kelly Patrick
Jack, Pat, Manual. I don't know much about the grandparents.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:05 AM
Susan Kasaris
Who.....Just Jack
Feb 23, 2017, 7:04 AM
Kelly Patrick
Because that's how they were raised. Everyone played with their emotions.
Feb 23, 2017, 7:03 AM
Susan Kasaris
They play with our emotions....why?!
Feb 23, 2017, 12:45 AM
Susan Kasaris
Idk
Feb 23, 2017, 12:01 AM
Kelly Patrick
Feb 21, 2017, 11:11 PM
Susan Kasaris
That's good
Feb 14, 2017, 1:21 PM
Kelly Patrick
John decided to go with us.
Feb 14, 2017, 7:47 AM
Susan Kasaris
Alyssa has vball practice on Wed. Oh well. Have a good party
Feb 13, 2017, 10:52 PM
Kelly Patrick
John has very little to do with her.
Feb 8, 2017, 7:40 AM
Susan Kasaris
Instead of being with his family
Feb 8, 2017, 7:38 AM
Susan Kasaris
Dan stays there a lot and she likes that
Feb 8, 2017, 7:38 AM
Susan Kasaris
She does stir up trouble ....it's like she wants them to be with her !
Feb 8, 2017, 7:38 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. That is correct. They are 50..jeez
Feb 8, 2017, 7:37 AM
Kelly Patrick
It initially is Pat's fault but at some point they have to make their own choices. I can't blame my parents for my issues.
Feb 8, 2017, 7:33 AM
Susan Kasaris
A therapist once told me Pat is a troublemaker
Feb 7, 2017, 11:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
So basically Pat's fault?
Feb 7, 2017, 11:35 PM
Kelly Patrick
The world is scary for them, they've never been taught to appropriately handle their emotions. Stuff I'm teaching my kids, no one ever taught them.
Feb 7, 2017, 11:58 AM
Susan Kasaris
I know Dan always got all the attention growing up
Feb 7, 2017, 11:48 AM
Susan Kasaris
I think the drinking is repressing his emotions. Idk what they are afraid of.
Feb 7, 2017, 11:47 AM
Kelly Patrick
I don't. Not at this stage. Maybe when we were married and living together. Several therapists have told me that it's their soul, their true self trying to come out.
Feb 7, 2017, 11:43 AM
Susan Kasaris
I wish I had the answer
Feb 7, 2017, 11:41 AM
Susan Kasaris
Honestly I really don't know
Feb 7, 2017, 11:41 AM
Kelly Patrick
Do you think it's manipulation?
Feb 7, 2017, 11:40 AM
Susan Kasaris
They play with our emotions
Feb 7, 2017, 9:21 AM
Susan Kasaris
Feb 7, 2017, 9:20 AM
Kelly Patrick
John confessed something to me yesterday. It was like seeing the crack of light under the doorway. He let me into his soul for a brief second. Maybe there is hope.
Feb 7, 2017, 8:31 AM
Kelly Patrick
Ok
Feb 5, 2017, 1:50 PM
Susan Kasaris
Ok. I will check alyssa schedule..she may have vball practice
Feb 5, 2017, 1:32 PM
Kelly Patrick
Thursday feb 16, after school I'm taking all the kids.
Feb 5, 2017, 1:28 PM
Susan Kasaris
How cute. Maybe I can stop by with Alyssa
Feb 5, 2017, 1:22 PM
Kelly Patrick
She's so excited, I'm taking her and some friends to Skyzone and dinner. They ask if John's coming and all I can say is I don't know, I told him.
Feb 5, 2017, 1:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
How cute
Feb 5, 2017, 1:17 PM
Kelly Patrick
Feb 15, she will be 9.
Feb 5, 2017, 1:16 PM
Susan Kasaris
My girls just love her
Feb 5, 2017, 1:11 PM
Susan Kasaris
When is her bday..how old?
Feb 5, 2017, 1:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
That is sad...omg.
Feb 5, 2017, 1:10 PM
Kelly Patrick
I told him about Kyla's birthday coming up, but he never replied and I know he won't come or participate.
Feb 5, 2017, 1:10 PM
Kelly Patrick
John is so troubled and wants no help, so there's nothing anyone can do for him. Not even his children.
Feb 5, 2017, 1:09 PM
Susan Kasaris
Last year
Feb 5, 2017, 1:08 PM
Kelly Patrick
When has Alyssa babysat?
Feb 5, 2017, 1:08 PM
Susan Kasaris
I just told him we were talking about yoga
Feb 5, 2017, 1:07 PM
Susan Kasaris
Of course we are usually only talking about our girls
Feb 5, 2017, 1:07 PM
Susan Kasaris
Not a word about anything else
Feb 5, 2017, 1:06 PM
Susan Kasaris
Just about Alyssa babysitting for him
Feb 5, 2017, 1:06 PM
Susan Kasaris
No
Feb 5, 2017, 1:06 PM
Kelly Patrick
Does he volunteer stuff?
Feb 5, 2017, 12:58 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont ask him about John
Feb 5, 2017, 12:57 PM
Susan Kasaris
Oh
Feb 5, 2017, 12:57 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't think so.
Feb 5, 2017, 12:57 PM
Kelly Patrick
Yes. I've emailed him family tree stuff in recent weeks.
Feb 5, 2017, 12:57 PM
Susan Kasaris
John doesn't go on fb does he?
Feb 5, 2017, 12:57 PM
Susan Kasaris
That was awhile ago though
Feb 5, 2017, 12:56 PM
Kelly Patrick
How funny. He tried to friend request me but I didn't accept.
Feb 5, 2017, 12:54 PM
Susan Kasaris
He was to fishing for info
Feb 5, 2017, 12:50 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan said he knew I was talking to you ...i said how....he didn't say
Feb 5, 2017, 12:49 PM
Susan Kasaris
Somewhat
Feb 5, 2017, 12:49 PM
Kelly Patrick
Are you and Dan talking?
Feb 5, 2017, 12:46 PM
Susan Kasaris
Concentrating on work and taking care of myself
Feb 5, 2017, 12:44 PM
Kelly Patrick
What's going on with you?
Feb 5, 2017, 12:42 PM
Kelly Patrick
Yep
Feb 5, 2017, 12:40 PM
Susan Kasaris
All we can do is take care of ourselves and be there for our Family
Feb 5, 2017, 12:30 PM
Susan Kasaris
That is nice
Feb 5, 2017, 12:29 PM
Kelly Patrick
IP Address: 2600:1009:b019:7bd8:419c:a3b9:befe:603b
Feb 5, 2017, 11:55 AM
Kelly Patrick
I'm getting there. Here's a quote that's been helping me.
Feb 5, 2017, 11:55 AM
Susan Kasaris
they have communication isssues
Feb 5, 2017, 11:24 AM
Susan Kasaris
Are you ok
Feb 5, 2017, 11:21 AM
Kelly Patrick
Nope, he doesn't want to go on vacation with us, he doesn't want to get back together, he said friends and I can't mention another word about his drinking.
Feb 5, 2017, 11:19 AM
Susan Kasaris
So you are communicating again?
Feb 5, 2017, 11:14 AM
Kelly Patrick
It's been a struggle but I'm working through it.
Feb 5, 2017, 11:13 AM
Kelly Patrick
I was going to write you yesterday! No, nothing changed on my end for messenger.
Feb 5, 2017, 11:12 AM
Susan Kasaris
I had some messenger issues. Did yours change formats?
Feb 5, 2017, 10:58 AM
Susan Kasaris
Hi Kelly. How's it going
Feb 5, 2017, 10:57 AM
Kelly Patrick
I don't know, he just started canceling every time John would invite him. If I had a heart to heart with Paul, he'd understand where I'm coming from. He's seen John mean to me while drunk.
Jan 16, 2017, 5:41 PM
Susan Kasaris
they went to Browns game together
Jan 16, 2017, 5:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
why did he stop
Jan 16, 2017, 5:39 PM
Kelly Patrick
Paul stopped coming over. They only see each other at their once a year game and then the holiday party.
Jan 16, 2017, 5:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
I was crazy busy with 4 little girls back then
Jan 16, 2017, 5:38 PM
Susan Kasaris
I had No idea Paul goes there. recently? sad
Jan 16, 2017, 5:37 PM
Kelly Patrick
Everyone ran from me when I told them back in 2009.
Jan 16, 2017, 5:28 PM
Kelly Patrick
Paul does. He's been there before when John was too shitfaced to be a parent. No one wants to interfere, John's too much of a mean asshole.
Jan 16, 2017, 5:28 PM
Susan Kasaris
is Tom aware of this day drinking? or Paul?
Jan 16, 2017, 5:26 PM
Kelly Patrick
That's what they tell me. They normally text and FaceTime me, while he's off doing his own thing.
Jan 16, 2017, 12:42 PM
Susan Kasaris
that's weird if the kids are there ....he doesn't spend time with them?
Jan 16, 2017, 12:41 PM
Kelly Patrick
He's admitted he knows he has issues with alcohol, but doesn't want to stop. He's content with his lonely life. The kids told me he never hangs out with them on the weekends. He does his own thing.
Jan 16, 2017, 12:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont know his drinking issues except what u tell me. it sounds like he needs help with them though
Jan 16, 2017, 12:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
it takes 2 to work at it....
Jan 16, 2017, 12:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know. they are adults and need to deal with issues
Jan 16, 2017, 12:35 PM
Kelly Patrick
I'm slowly getting over John. I deserve much better than what he has ever given me. He will never find anyone as good as me, and I told him that. He said he wants me back and loves me but he won't stop drinking.
Jan 16, 2017, 12:30 PM
Kelly Patrick
Why who doesn't have these issues?
Jan 16, 2017, 12:29 PM
Susan Kasaris
But then I look at time and I'm wondering why he doesn't have these issues
Jan 16, 2017, 12:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
I think a lot of these issues are because they were not with a steady father
Jan 16, 2017, 12:14 PM
Susan Kasaris
road rage
Jan 16, 2017, 11:38 AM
Kelly Patrick
Kids told me that John got into a fight with another driver and chased him around town for a while until the guy went home. The kids were scared and screaming at him.
Jan 16, 2017, 11:07 AM
Susan Kasaris
I can see that
Jan 10, 2017, 8:29 AM
Kelly Patrick
John thinks because they were born in his house that should be home, but they consider my house home more than his.
Jan 10, 2017, 8:09 AM
Kelly Patrick
They both call my house home over John's.
Jan 10, 2017, 8:09 AM
Susan Kasaris
It sounds like it because maybe Brayden calling that his home over John home
Jan 10, 2017, 8:06 AM
Kelly Patrick
Omg I can't believe you said that!! Kyla said that too.
Jan 10, 2017, 8:05 AM
Susan Kasaris
maybe he was jealous of the room?
Jan 10, 2017, 8:03 AM
Kelly Patrick
Here's an example of how much John is an asshole. We remodeled Brayden's bedroom at my house. He picked out the color he wanted and we painted and hung shelves, and made it his own little man cave. He's extremely excited about it and wanted to show John. John tells him that the walls are too dark and it doesn't look good. Then says to me that I should've known better than to paint his room too dark. Brayden said he was hurt and yelled at John in his head for being so mean. Brayden was very excited about it and John just crushed him.
Jan 10, 2017, 7:31 AM
Susan Kasaris
how sad
Jan 9, 2017, 11:02 PM
Kelly Patrick
That's good to hear though. I'm always stressed out on those days. John drives the kids home after drinking all day.
Jan 9, 2017, 11:00 PM
Kelly Patrick
She messaged me asking about yoga helping her, she said she's been sick for a few months.
Jan 9, 2017, 11:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
Janette is sick
Jan 9, 2017, 10:57 PM
Kelly Patrick
Why?!
Jan 9, 2017, 10:57 PM
Susan Kasaris
The holiday party was cancelled
Jan 9, 2017, 10:33 PM
Kelly Patrick
He hates Jack and Manuel, and realizes he like both of them, which makes him hate them more. He has severe self esteem issues, it's creating havoc in him. If I stop fighting for him, and potentially us, no one will ever help him.
Jan 4, 2017, 3:40 PM
Susan Kasaris
I thought he hated Manuel
Jan 4, 2017, 3:35 PM
Kelly Patrick
John is exactly like Manuel. We talked about that in July on our family vacation. John said then he'd work on things. By the time we got home he was back to his normal asshole self.
Jan 4, 2017, 3:30 PM
Susan Kasaris
Remember Manuel got into that downward spiral
Jan 4, 2017, 3:27 PM
Susan Kasaris
It sounds like he needs to go to a meeting to get help
Jan 4, 2017, 3:27 PM
Kelly Patrick
He's admitted many times he has trouble with alcohol, but can't stop.
Jan 4, 2017, 3:26 PM
Kelly Patrick
John drinks every day, starts around 11-1130. Depending on when he eats lunch. He's started working from home so he can drink more.
Jan 4, 2017, 3:26 PM
Susan Kasaris
I Know Dan will go on binges where he won't drink and he'll say I'm not going to drink and then he'll just drink on the weekend
Jan 4, 2017, 3:25 PM
Susan Kasaris
Does he drink every day?
Jan 4, 2017, 3:25 PM
Kelly Patrick
About his drinking yes.
Jan 4, 2017, 3:24 PM
Susan Kasaris
Did you guys fight a lot?
Jan 4, 2017, 3:24 PM
Kelly Patrick
They do think it's normal. That's the sad part. John said he wants someone who will fuck him when he wants and who will let him drink and smoke and do his thing. I said no way.
Jan 4, 2017, 3:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
They feel that it's normal to have a broken family
Jan 4, 2017, 3:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
It's funny because he is so about family and his is broken!
Jan 4, 2017, 3:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont know what John is looking for
Jan 4, 2017, 3:13 PM
Susan Kasaris
so true!!!
Jan 4, 2017, 3:13 PM
Kelly Patrick
I keep reading a quote that says the right people will want you in their lives.
Jan 4, 2017, 3:06 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know the feeling...lol
Jan 4, 2017, 3:03 PM
Kelly Patrick
They hate John. All my friends hate John. No one wants me with him.
Jan 4, 2017, 3:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
That only I can make the decision. What does your Mom say?
Jan 4, 2017, 3:01 PM
Kelly Patrick
What does she say?
Jan 4, 2017, 2:59 PM
Susan Kasaris
Believe me...I consult my Mom a lot for answers and only I can make the decision
Jan 4, 2017, 2:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont know. Only you know. They say when you know....it will come to you.
Jan 4, 2017, 2:00 PM
Kelly Patrick
I have and will. He doesn't want me. He wants to be alone with his alcohol.
Jan 4, 2017, 1:59 PM
Susan Kasaris
Only you can make that decision
Jan 4, 2017, 1:51 PM
Kelly Patrick
I realize I have to be done. I've been hanging on for nothing.
Jan 4, 2017, 1:41 PM
Susan Kasaris
Happy New Year to you as well
Jan 1, 2017, 6:27 PM
Kelly Patrick
Happy new year Susan. Hope 2017 is a better year for us both.
Jan 1, 2017, 12:25 PM
Kelly Patrick
You don't think he's addicted to alcohol? He passed it from drinking one day at John's. the kids told me and I confronted John about it. He laughed.
Dec 25, 2016, 10:32 PM
Susan Kasaris
dan doesn't have an addiction that I know of
Dec 25, 2016, 10:25 PM
Kelly Patrick
They have a fb group. I've learned a lot from there too.
Dec 25, 2016, 10:16 PM
Susan Kasaris
Oh. I never went to a meeting
Dec 25, 2016, 10:16 PM
Kelly Patrick
Very. Al-anon teaches you never lose hope, but it's hard.
Dec 25, 2016, 10:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
yea. that is sad
Dec 25, 2016, 10:13 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't have a choice. I tell him all the time alcohol wins over our family.
Dec 25, 2016, 10:13 PM
Susan Kasaris
I have ever friends in that group
Dec 25, 2016, 10:13 PM
Susan Kasaris
well if John doesn't care ...what does it matter
Dec 25, 2016, 10:12 PM
Kelly Patrick
I've studied addiction for 10 yrs now. I'm also in Al-anon.
Dec 25, 2016, 10:09 PM
Susan Kasaris
sounds like u need to move on....idk
Dec 25, 2016, 10:07 PM
Susan Kasaris
idk much about the topic
Dec 25, 2016, 10:07 PM
Kelly Patrick
I know. Only a small percentage of high functioning addicts recover.
Dec 25, 2016, 10:04 PM
Susan Kasaris
or of it can be
Dec 25, 2016, 10:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
not sure how that is fixed
Dec 25, 2016, 10:01 PM
Kelly Patrick
He's a full blown addict. Of course it bothered me!!
Dec 25, 2016, 10:01 PM
Susan Kasaris
doesn't that bother u?
Dec 25, 2016, 10:01 PM
Susan Kasaris
wow. sounds like he is an addict.
Dec 25, 2016, 10:00 PM
Kelly Patrick
He watches it alone. When we first started dating he couldn't have sex without watching it.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:59 PM
Kelly Patrick
A counselor we went to told him he's an alcoholic and porn addict. He went home and wrote up a letter threatening to get the guys license taken away for saying that.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:59 PM
Susan Kasaris
so he just watches porn alone?
Dec 25, 2016, 9:59 PM
Kelly Patrick
I busted him about the porn on a joint credit card, he opened a private account.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:58 PM
Susan Kasaris
that is just wrong
Dec 25, 2016, 9:53 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dec 25, 2016, 9:52 PM
Susan Kasaris
you need to move on!
Dec 25, 2016, 9:52 PM
Susan Kasaris
wtheck
Dec 25, 2016, 9:52 PM
Kelly Patrick
Ours too. He spent so much money on alcohol, cigars, and porn.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:52 PM
Susan Kasaris
sorry wrong button
Dec 25, 2016, 9:52 PM
Susan Kasaris
You missed a video chat with a contact.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:51 PM
Susan Kasaris
that was one 9f our problems
Dec 25, 2016, 9:47 PM
Susan Kasaris
dan is bad with it too
Dec 25, 2016, 9:46 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont get it....he is a finance major!
Dec 25, 2016, 9:46 PM
Kelly Patrick
Pat didn't teach them much.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:46 PM
Kelly Patrick
He's the worst with money.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:46 PM
Susan Kasaris
Pat didn't teach them about finance...but John is a finance major
Dec 25, 2016, 9:45 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know
Dec 25, 2016, 9:44 PM
Kelly Patrick
John has money but he's also in debt.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know what u mean though.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:42 PM
Susan Kasaris
well as u see money isn't everything
Dec 25, 2016, 9:42 PM
Kelly Patrick
Yes. He doesn't make a lot of money. And though that's superficial, I'm not sure about it.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:41 PM
Susan Kasaris
is he divorced
Dec 25, 2016, 9:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am playing words with friends with her.... lol
Dec 25, 2016, 9:38 PM
Kelly Patrick
Well there are things I'm not sure about. And he knows my history with John and that I'm not over him.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:38 PM
Susan Kasaris
if that guy treats u good
..I would go 4 it
Dec 25, 2016, 9:37 PM
Kelly Patrick
Alyssa is playing me in scrabble right now.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:37 PM
Kelly Patrick
Being alone is the worst for me. Why I broke down Friday, the kids went back to John's after I had them for 4 days. It's rough when they're over there.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
the girls Rover there now and I am alone ...it sucks
Dec 25, 2016, 9:33 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont really want to date .. but I don't wanna be alone
Dec 25, 2016, 9:32 PM
Susan Kasaris
well i guess u have to try
Dec 25, 2016, 9:31 PM
Kelly Patrick
My heart isn't in it.
Dec 25, 2016, 9:31 PM
Susan Kasaris
4 u and the new guy
Dec 25, 2016, 9:31 PM
Susan Kasaris
it's probably what I need to do
Dec 25, 2016, 9:30 PM
Susan Kasaris
no. I hope it works 0ut for 4 and the newbie
Dec 25, 2016, 9:30 PM
Kelly Patrick
Anything I can do to help?
Dec 25, 2016, 9:28 PM
Susan Kasaris
no
Dec 25, 2016, 9:17 PM
Kelly Patrick
Feeling any better? I caught a glimpse of Dan. The guy I am talking to was here when John and Dan dropped the kids off. I told John and offered to introduce them. The kids said Dan wanted to know who was over.
Dec 25, 2016, 8:59 PM
Kelly Patrick
Oh no!!! I had mine Friday. I know how you're feeling.
Dec 25, 2016, 4:14 PM
Susan Kasaris
I already had a breakdown ๐Ÿ˜ž
Dec 25, 2016, 4:09 PM
Kelly Patrick
Let me know, I'm working today.
Dec 25, 2016, 8:56 AM
Susan Kasaris
I am recording it
Dec 25, 2016, 8:45 AM
Susan Kasaris
I am sure they will be on TV today!
Dec 25, 2016, 8:44 AM
Kelly Patrick
Good to hear!!!! I had a good night too. Enjoy your day today! Let's move forward and take care of ourselves and our kids.
Dec 25, 2016, 8:43 AM
Susan Kasaris
Church rejuvenates me
Dec 25, 2016, 8:37 AM
Susan Kasaris
I had a great Christmas Eve with the girls๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐ŸŒฒ
Dec 25, 2016, 8:37 AM
Susan Kasaris
Merry Christmas to you ! I appreciate you listening
Dec 25, 2016, 8:36 AM
Kelly Patrick
Merry Christmas Susan! Thank you for being there for me!!
Dec 25, 2016, 8:35 AM
Kelly Patrick
When will karma get them?
Dec 24, 2016, 12:25 PM
Susan Kasaris
and hiv
Dec 24, 2016, 12:23 PM
Kelly Patrick
A vagina with no baggage.
Dec 24, 2016, 12:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
I just don't get it. what do they want....someone to serve them with no emotion? doesn't exist
Dec 24, 2016, 12:23 PM
Kelly Patrick
John told me I'm desperate and needy and he doesn't want drama so he'd rather be alone. So maybe I should just give up on him.
Dec 24, 2016, 12:22 PM
Susan Kasaris
my head hurts from all this
Dec 24, 2016, 12:22 PM
Kelly Patrick
John doesn't care, Dan doesn't care. So why should we?
Dec 24, 2016, 12:21 PM
Susan Kasaris
I guess i have to move on
Dec 24, 2016, 12:17 PM
Susan Kasaris
no! it sucks
Dec 24, 2016, 12:17 PM
Kelly Patrick
So should we be ok with it too?
Dec 24, 2016, 12:16 PM
Susan Kasaris
I guess the girls are ok with it and they r gonna go over there after the game
Dec 24, 2016, 12:14 PM
Kelly Patrick
I was supposed to have the kids but now they're going to the game. Brayden is so excited so that makes me feel a little better, but still John's going to be drinking and acting like an asshole around Dan.
Dec 24, 2016, 12:13 PM
Susan Kasaris
now he is going to the game to pick up girls!
Dec 24, 2016, 12:12 PM
Susan Kasaris
he was supposed to have the girls over for dinner
Dec 24, 2016, 12:11 PM
Susan Kasaris
๐Ÿ˜ค
Dec 24, 2016, 12:11 PM
Kelly Patrick
Oh I know. My stomach dropped when you told me he was going. Neither one of them will change if they have each other.
Dec 24, 2016, 12:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
now that he is going to the cavs game sitting courtside.....he is probably on a high
Dec 24, 2016, 12:09 PM
Susan Kasaris
uugghh
Dec 24, 2016, 12:09 PM
Kelly Patrick
That was my day yesterday!!! I feel a little better today, but holidays are hard for sure.
Dec 24, 2016, 11:59 AM
Susan Kasaris
the girls hate seeing my cry so I can't
Dec 24, 2016, 11:46 AM
Susan Kasaris
I dont think i can get through it
Dec 24, 2016, 11:46 AM
Susan Kasaris
ok. today is the absolute worst day
Dec 24, 2016, 11:45 AM
Kelly Patrick
Yes, they love him.
Dec 23, 2016, 10:46 PM
Susan Kasaris
did he meet your kids
Dec 23, 2016, 10:38 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know. I know. it sucks
Dec 23, 2016, 10:12 PM
Kelly Patrick
I work with him. I don't know what I want to be honest. I want love and respect, and he does that for me. But I want it from John.
Dec 23, 2016, 10:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
I think he is having a midlife crisis
Dec 23, 2016, 9:50 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont even know why Dan left
Dec 23, 2016, 9:50 PM
Susan Kasaris
do u like being with him....maybe just try?
Dec 23, 2016, 9:49 PM
Susan Kasaris
where did u meet this guy
Dec 23, 2016, 9:49 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dec 23, 2016, 9:48 PM
Kelly Patrick
Instead they spend their time together, drinking and talking about vaginas.
Dec 23, 2016, 9:48 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't get it. Why wouldn't John and Dan want to be with us and be the men we need them to be?
Dec 23, 2016, 9:47 PM
Kelly Patrick
They're with John. I was having a hard day before we started talking.
Dec 23, 2016, 9:45 PM
Susan Kasaris
that is why it cancelled my date....i cant handle it
Dec 23, 2016, 9:41 PM
Susan Kasaris
where r the kids
Dec 23, 2016, 9:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
I didnt know u were with someone
Dec 23, 2016, 9:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
I'm sorry if I upset u
Dec 23, 2016, 9:38 PM
Kelly Patrick
I have a man downstairs who adores me and I'm upstairs crying and about to shower. I think I might be messed up for life.
Dec 23, 2016, 9:30 PM
Susan Kasaris
yw. thx u
Dec 23, 2016, 9:19 PM
Kelly Patrick
Good night Susan, thanks for always listening to me.
Dec 23, 2016, 9:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
ttyl
Dec 23, 2016, 9:17 PM
Susan Kasaris
Noone understands
Dec 23, 2016, 9:17 PM
Susan Kasaris
u know
Dec 23, 2016, 9:15 PM
Kelly Patrick
Why??
Dec 23, 2016, 9:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
I turned down a date tonight
Dec 23, 2016, 9:15 PM
Kelly Patrick
I told him I'm writing you. He just doesn't know about what.
Dec 23, 2016, 9:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
oh...sorry
Dec 23, 2016, 9:14 PM
Kelly Patrick
I'm with the guy now. And messaging you.
Dec 23, 2016, 9:14 PM
Susan Kasaris
what r u doin tonignt
Dec 23, 2016, 9:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
๐Ÿ˜ž
Dec 23, 2016, 9:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
what is wrong with us............ we just want our family!
Dec 23, 2016, 9:03 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know it sucks ...it's like u dont even wanna be there
Dec 23, 2016, 9:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
maybe give the newbie a chance?
Dec 23, 2016, 9:01 PM
Kelly Patrick
Usually not!
Dec 23, 2016, 9:01 PM
Susan Kasaris
but they are probably not happy...lol
Dec 23, 2016, 9:01 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know!
Dec 23, 2016, 9:00 PM
Kelly Patrick
I have a hard time around the holidays. I can't even look on fb when everyone is happy and married.
Dec 23, 2016, 9:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
my dad is awesome. he has always been there with our family
Dec 23, 2016, 8:59 PM
Susan Kasaris
what is wrong with them
Dec 23, 2016, 8:59 PM
Susan Kasaris
and christmas
Dec 23, 2016, 8:59 PM
Susan Kasaris
I just got back from a 3 day trip and everyone was talking about their spouses
Dec 23, 2016, 8:58 PM
Susan Kasaris
wtf
Dec 23, 2016, 8:58 PM
Kelly Patrick
That's how I feel now too.
Dec 23, 2016, 8:57 PM
Susan Kasaris
๐Ÿ˜ญ
Dec 23, 2016, 8:57 PM
Kelly Patrick
Me too.
Dec 23, 2016, 8:57 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am tired of being alone
Dec 23, 2016, 8:57 PM
Kelly Patrick
She told me over the summer how he never calls or comes around, but he sends her money.
Dec 23, 2016, 8:57 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't. John doesn't talk to Pat, he sees her twice a year, and calls her maybe once a month.
Dec 23, 2016, 8:56 PM
Susan Kasaris
do u talk to Heidi
Dec 23, 2016, 8:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
what do u think of that
Dec 23, 2016, 8:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
this is FUCKIN nuts. u r right
Dec 23, 2016, 8:42 PM
Susan Kasaris
she told me that I need to seek help the last time Dan left
Dec 23, 2016, 8:41 PM
Susan Kasaris
it's like she thinks we deserve this because it happened to her
Dec 23, 2016, 8:41 PM
Susan Kasaris
her sons
Dec 23, 2016, 8:40 PM
Kelly Patrick
What boys??
Dec 23, 2016, 8:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dec 23, 2016, 8:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
Heidi told me she wants all her boys to herself!
Dec 23, 2016, 8:35 PM
Susan Kasaris
only fb stuff.
Dec 23, 2016, 8:34 PM
Susan Kasaris
she never calls
Dec 23, 2016, 8:34 PM
Susan Kasaris
I limited her access on fb because she kept commenting on my pics. it was bothering me
Dec 23, 2016, 8:34 PM
Kelly Patrick
They don't deserve us, this is fucking nuts that we went men who are assholes and don't deserve us.
Dec 23, 2016, 8:30 PM
Kelly Patrick
I thought you said Dan wants to be with you?
Dec 23, 2016, 8:30 PM
Kelly Patrick
No. I posted something the other day about struggling with Brayden and his mood swings. She made some comment that I wanted to blast her and say she didn't do a good job with her 5 kids.
Dec 23, 2016, 8:29 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am making Pat's 7 layer salad for dinner tomorrow. she never calls me. does she call u?
Dec 23, 2016, 8:23 PM
Kelly Patrick
I'm here
Dec 23, 2016, 8:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
r u there
Dec 23, 2016, 7:47 PM
Susan Kasaris
now I have to plan a wedding that he will be at!!!
Dec 23, 2016, 7:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
it stinks but I guess it's what he wants
Dec 23, 2016, 7:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
I have to move on
Dec 23, 2016, 7:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
I want to see Dan but I guess he doesn't wanna see me
Dec 23, 2016, 7:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
I wish I knew
Dec 23, 2016, 7:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
there is a reason
Dec 23, 2016, 7:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
idk Kelly....why is this happening
Dec 23, 2016, 7:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
well that was hearsay....
Dec 23, 2016, 7:35 PM
Kelly Patrick
Of course. You told me John wanted women to fuck, haven't stopped thinking of that since.
Dec 23, 2016, 7:35 PM
Susan Kasaris
uuggjh...do u think that at all?
Dec 23, 2016, 7:31 PM
Susan Kasaris
now they r going to the game on Christmas and women will probably be talking to them
Dec 23, 2016, 7:31 PM
Susan Kasaris
is John texting u at all?
Dec 23, 2016, 7:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
don't tell him we r chatting
Dec 23, 2016, 7:22 PM
Kelly Patrick
I'm going to have to. Tough love
Dec 23, 2016, 7:17 PM
Susan Kasaris
I told u to ignore him
Dec 23, 2016, 7:16 PM
Susan Kasaris
you are a smart beautiful woman
Dec 23, 2016, 7:16 PM
Kelly Patrick
I know he is. But what can I do?
Dec 23, 2016, 7:16 PM
Susan Kasaris
but why
Dec 23, 2016, 7:16 PM
Susan Kasaris
maybe John is suppressing his feelings
Dec 23, 2016, 7:16 PM
Susan Kasaris
I just don't get it
Dec 23, 2016, 7:15 PM
Kelly Patrick
Great
Dec 23, 2016, 7:11 PM
Susan Kasaris
it doesn't go away I heard but we have to ignore it I guess!!!
Dec 23, 2016, 7:08 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know the feeling!!!! aahhhh
Dec 23, 2016, 7:07 PM
Kelly Patrick
We haven't lived together for over 7 years. But we still did things together and took trips. John doesn't deserve me either, but I can't seem to get over him and move on. I've been seeing this guy for over a month and he absolutely adores me. And all I can do is wonder if John would ever want me again.
Dec 23, 2016, 7:07 PM
Susan Kasaris
life is short and he is wasting precious time
Dec 23, 2016, 7:07 PM
Susan Kasaris
I feel like he doesn't deserve me
Dec 23, 2016, 7:06 PM
Susan Kasaris
idk the answer
Dec 23, 2016, 7:06 PM
Susan Kasaris
how long have u been apart
Dec 23, 2016, 7:06 PM
Kelly Patrick
I ask because I don't know if I can ever get over John.
Dec 23, 2016, 7:05 PM
Susan Kasaris
r u talking to him
Dec 23, 2016, 7:05 PM
Susan Kasaris
why do u ask
Dec 23, 2016, 7:04 PM
Kelly Patrick
Do you think you can move on and not be with Dan?
Dec 23, 2016, 7:04 PM
Kelly Patrick
He thinks he's invincible.
Dec 23, 2016, 4:00 PM
Kelly Patrick
Doesn't matter. He drove many times drunk after Paul's holiday parties.
Dec 23, 2016, 4:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
but he will have the kids
Dec 23, 2016, 4:00 PM
Kelly Patrick
Probably John. John drives after drinking all the time.
Dec 23, 2016, 3:59 PM
Susan Kasaris
who will drive
Dec 23, 2016, 3:59 PM
Kelly Patrick
Ugh. There's no hope for them.
Dec 23, 2016, 3:59 PM
Susan Kasaris
yes
Dec 23, 2016, 3:58 PM
Kelly Patrick
Is Dan going?
Dec 23, 2016, 3:42 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't have a choice. He doesn't want me around.
Dec 23, 2016, 3:08 PM
Susan Kasaris
are you ok with that? my kids said he asked Dan to go
Dec 23, 2016, 3:04 PM
Kelly Patrick
Until I'm done working. He's taking them to a Cavs game on Christmas Day.
Dec 23, 2016, 2:58 PM
Susan Kasaris
so John has kids on Christmas?
Dec 23, 2016, 2:53 PM
Kelly Patrick
I told him that I won't give up because everyone did and I can't live with myself if I give up too.
Dec 19, 2016, 2:45 PM
Susan Kasaris
Because you have feelings!
Dec 19, 2016, 2:33 PM
Kelly Patrick
Why do I even bother?
Dec 19, 2016, 2:12 PM
Susan Kasaris
Narcissist
Dec 19, 2016, 2:03 PM
Susan Kasaris
Yep!
Dec 19, 2016, 2:03 PM
Kelly Patrick
I did lots of research over the weekend about dealing with addicts. They manipulate and blame. And are just plain mean.
Dec 19, 2016, 1:59 PM
Susan Kasaris
They play games
Dec 19, 2016, 1:52 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't talk to him often, felt the need to reach out this weekend.
Dec 19, 2016, 1:50 PM
Susan Kasaris
Sorry I was out to lunch
Dec 19, 2016, 1:41 PM
Susan Kasaris
I thought you weren't talking to him
Dec 19, 2016, 1:40 PM
Kelly Patrick
I asked him to get help and work on getting his family back.
Dec 19, 2016, 12:25 PM
Susan Kasaris
What did u say
Dec 19, 2016, 12:16 PM
Kelly Patrick
John told me to leave him alone, he only wants to communicate about kids only.
Dec 19, 2016, 11:54 AM
Kelly Patrick
Westlake village, by St. John hospital.
Dec 17, 2016, 10:42 PM
Susan Kasaris
Where do u work on Christmas
Dec 17, 2016, 10:05 PM
Kelly Patrick
Our xmas is Wednesday because I have to work.
Dec 17, 2016, 10:04 PM
Susan Kasaris
So do you have the kids for christmas
Dec 17, 2016, 10:02 PM
Kelly Patrick
His best friends brother.
Dec 13, 2016, 10:31 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dec 13, 2016, 10:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
Which friend died . How awful
Dec 13, 2016, 10:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
Well he's never going to forget you.. You've been part of his life for many years
Dec 13, 2016, 9:32 PM
Kelly Patrick
Pictures of me.
Dec 13, 2016, 9:25 PM
Susan Kasaris
I'm just leaving my meeting
Dec 13, 2016, 9:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
Pics of what
Dec 13, 2016, 9:18 PM
Kelly Patrick
I learned tonight that John has all my pictures saved onto his phone. Any picture I send him he keeps. Kyla told me and he tried to say he doesn't know how to get rid of them.
Dec 13, 2016, 8:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
I have to go to my meeting now
Dec 13, 2016, 4:04 PM
Kelly Patrick
Their thought process is stunted and warped. Selfish decisions. They'll burn out sooner or later. I remember when John's friend died of alcohol poisoning, bled to death. I thought that'd change him, nope. Then the kids and I left, that didn't change him, then Manuel dies, that didn't change him. What will?
Dec 13, 2016, 3:55 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont know why they think the way they do
Dec 13, 2016, 3:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
For our Summer vacation this year...Dan called Danielle crying the day we left
Dec 13, 2016, 3:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dec 13, 2016, 3:43 PM
Kelly Patrick
I'm planning a beach trip with just kids and I for 2017. We've done yearly beach trips for 4 yrs.
Dec 13, 2016, 3:41 PM
Kelly Patrick
He said he doesn't want some woman telling him he can't drink.
Dec 13, 2016, 3:40 PM
Susan Kasaris
Uugghhhh ๐Ÿ˜ฌ
Dec 13, 2016, 3:39 PM
Kelly Patrick
Yeah, alcohol wins.
Dec 13, 2016, 3:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
That u were gonna move last yr..idk
Dec 13, 2016, 3:38 PM
Kelly Patrick
You heard about what house?
Dec 13, 2016, 3:33 PM
Susan Kasaris
My friends husband is making her move to Hawaii without a job!!!
Dec 13, 2016, 3:26 PM
Susan Kasaris
These guys are crazy
Dec 13, 2016, 3:26 PM
Susan Kasaris
I heard about the Columbia station house
Dec 13, 2016, 3:26 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am available during the day..but out of town next week for regional meeting
Dec 13, 2016, 3:25 PM
Susan Kasaris
Omg. I just don't get it!
Dec 13, 2016, 3:24 PM
Kelly Patrick
Last year I got an ornament made of all 4 of us, we talked about moving to a new house. Kids knew and talked about it.
Dec 13, 2016, 3:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
We didn't spend 2012 together. But we were communicating
Dec 13, 2016, 3:22 PM
Susan Kasaris
What! I had no idea.
Dec 13, 2016, 3:22 PM
Kelly Patrick
This is our first year we won't be together for the holidays. Doesn't faze John but it's killing the kids and I. Are you ever available during the day?
Dec 13, 2016, 3:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
R u ok?
Dec 13, 2016, 2:58 PM
Susan Kasaris
I have my last one next week
Dec 13, 2016, 1:54 PM
Susan Kasaris
Hi Kelly...i am doing well ..I have 3 business trips in Dec so I have even VERY occupied. Keeps my mind off stuff! This season can be traumatic. How r u?
Dec 13, 2016, 1:53 PM
Kelly Patrick
Just checking in, how are you doing?
Dec 13, 2016, 1:52 PM
Kelly Patrick
I do believe in karma too.
Dec 4, 2016, 8:16 AM
Susan Kasaris
Thought of you and I do believe in Karma. Hope u get something good out of it xx

This is for u x Read till the end! I sent an angel to watch over you last night, but it came back and asked "why?" The angel said, "angels don't watch over angels!" twenty angels are in your world. Ten are sleeping, nine of them are playing and one is reading this message. The universe has seen you struggling with some things and says it over. a blessing is coming your way. If you believe in Karma send this message to 14 friends including me, if I don't get it back I guess I'm not one of them. As soon as you get 5 replies, someone you love will quietly surprise you... Not joking. Pass this message on. Please don't ignore it. you are being tested and Karma is going to fix two big things tonight in your favor. If you believe in Karma drop everything and pass it on TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE. DON'T BREAK THIS. SEND THIS TO 14 FRIENDS IN 10 MINUTES IT'S NOT THAT HARD. WHOEVER SENT THIS TO YOU MUST CARE ABOUT YOU

Just hold your finger on it n it should say forward
Dec 3, 2016, 10:59 PM
Kelly Patrick
I bought my house and moved on. But emotionally still attached.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:34 AM
Susan Kasaris
We seriously need to move on...omg
Dec 1, 2016, 11:32 AM
Susan Kasaris
She is done
Dec 1, 2016, 11:31 AM
Susan Kasaris
Bought her own house
Dec 1, 2016, 11:31 AM
Kelly Patrick
I don't know Bobbie
Dec 1, 2016, 11:31 AM
Susan Kasaris
Bobbie moved
Dec 1, 2016, 11:31 AM
Susan Kasaris
Bobbie is strong
Dec 1, 2016, 11:30 AM
Susan Kasaris
Pat is weak
Dec 1, 2016, 11:30 AM
Susan Kasaris
No ur not
Dec 1, 2016, 11:30 AM
Susan Kasaris
Hahahaha
Dec 1, 2016, 11:30 AM
Kelly Patrick
But look at what Bobbi and Pat are doing. Taking him back!! I've told John he's Jack and I'm Pat several times.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:26 AM
Susan Kasaris
I look up to Bobbie
Dec 1, 2016, 11:26 AM
Kelly Patrick
I would love to get together. Jack is the example to Dan and John and they don't see it.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:26 AM
Susan Kasaris
Ass
Dec 1, 2016, 11:25 AM
Susan Kasaris
Look what Jack did to Bobbie
Dec 1, 2016, 11:25 AM
Susan Kasaris
Don't let John bring u down
Dec 1, 2016, 11:25 AM
Susan Kasaris
Embrace it
Dec 1, 2016, 11:24 AM
Susan Kasaris
Life is strange
Dec 1, 2016, 11:24 AM
Susan Kasaris
We can go drink wine sometime if u want
Dec 1, 2016, 11:23 AM
Susan Kasaris
Crazy...lol
Dec 1, 2016, 11:22 AM
Kelly Patrick
That's why I reached out to you Monday. Kyla cried so hard and it got me down. You're the only one who understands the spot I'm in. It's so crazy to me that after all these years, we've been able to bond like this.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:22 AM
Susan Kasaris
Good for u๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
Dec 1, 2016, 11:20 AM
Kelly Patrick
I know. That's why I'm changing my life now. Saying no to thanksgiving was a huge step for me. We've spent it together every year, even all these years we've been divorced. He wanted me to go over.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:19 AM
Susan Kasaris
Kelly...u deserve better!
Dec 1, 2016, 11:18 AM
Kelly Patrick
And John will use his money and charm to impress her. He found some black chick in Georgia to fuck for a few years. Caught him texting her a few years ago while we were on a family vacation.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:17 AM
Susan Kasaris
She will just be after money!
Dec 1, 2016, 11:16 AM
Kelly Patrick
Him not me.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:16 AM
Kelly Patrick
John too. A fuck friend with no drama. So he can sit in his basement alone and drink and no one tells me what to do.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:16 AM
Susan Kasaris
So gay
Dec 1, 2016, 11:16 AM
Susan Kasaris
Dan probably thinks he can get some 30 yr old and that will make him happy
Dec 1, 2016, 11:16 AM
Kelly Patrick
Yep. Destroying everything in their path to run away.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:10 AM
Susan Kasaris
They run away instead of facing
Dec 1, 2016, 11:09 AM
Kelly Patrick
Wish they'd realize they have the power to make their life better.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:08 AM
Susan Kasaris
Again...lack of father figure
Dec 1, 2016, 11:08 AM
Susan Kasaris
Omg.. that's crazy
Dec 1, 2016, 11:07 AM
Kelly Patrick
It's too hard for him to tell me something nice. I don't know why. It took me losing my hair for him to tell me he loves me.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:07 AM
Susan Kasaris
I wanna punch him
Dec 1, 2016, 11:06 AM
Susan Kasaris
Uugghhb
Dec 1, 2016, 11:05 AM
Kelly Patrick
I know he does. He won't ever tell me that but he tells others that.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:05 AM
Susan Kasaris
This was last year
Dec 1, 2016, 11:05 AM
Kelly Patrick
Why does dan tell you this stuff?
Dec 1, 2016, 11:04 AM
Susan Kasaris
John told dan he likes ur body...fyi
Dec 1, 2016, 11:02 AM
Susan Kasaris
Thus...our problem.....uugghhh
Dec 1, 2016, 11:01 AM
Susan Kasaris
True
Dec 1, 2016, 11:01 AM
Kelly Patrick
Like good men.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:01 AM
Kelly Patrick
Good sex is hard to find.
Dec 1, 2016, 11:00 AM
Susan Kasaris
Sex is missed though!!
Dec 1, 2016, 11:00 AM
Susan Kasaris
I just hang with my friends and have a blast
Dec 1, 2016, 10:58 AM
Susan Kasaris
But I do agree other guys r mostly dicks
Dec 1, 2016, 10:58 AM
Kelly Patrick
I'm in the same boat. Some days I feel strong and independent and other days I just wish it could be different.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:58 AM
Susan Kasaris
Idk what I want. Only time will tell
Dec 1, 2016, 10:57 AM
Susan Kasaris
Same
Dec 1, 2016, 10:56 AM
Kelly Patrick
I get it now! I'm not friends with either of them. In fact I blocked both, I knew they were stalking my page.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:56 AM
Susan Kasaris
No!
Dec 1, 2016, 10:56 AM
Susan Kasaris
That is why I can't be fb friends
Dec 1, 2016, 10:54 AM
Susan Kasaris
Ok. We can't let them know
Dec 1, 2016, 10:54 AM
Kelly Patrick
I told my best friend, that's all.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:53 AM
Susan Kasaris
No!
Dec 1, 2016, 10:52 AM
Kelly Patrick
Have you told Dan?
Dec 1, 2016, 10:52 AM
Kelly Patrick
I don't talk to John about anything.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:52 AM
Susan Kasaris
It hurts...i know
Dec 1, 2016, 10:51 AM
Susan Kasaris
Great....keep doing it!!
Dec 1, 2016, 10:51 AM
Susan Kasaris
How do i know u won't tell John we r talking
Dec 1, 2016, 10:50 AM
Kelly Patrick
I've been unavailable for the past several months. I turned down going over for thanksgiving. Toughest decision I've had to make. Made the kids sad, so very sad. But I can't put myself in that position for John to take advantage of me.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:50 AM
Susan Kasaris
He needs to treasure u
Dec 1, 2016, 10:50 AM
Susan Kasaris
He can't have a booty call!
Dec 1, 2016, 10:49 AM
Susan Kasaris
What he can't have
Dec 1, 2016, 10:49 AM
Susan Kasaris
Well then u need to make urself unavailable to john....he needs to see hat he can't have
Dec 1, 2016, 10:48 AM
Kelly Patrick
I know women too. Looking for good men. It's not easy. I've dated a lot over the years, I'd rather be single than deal with the nonsense I find. Plus I don't feel I'm completely over John and I still have the urge to try and help him. Despite what everyone tells me to do.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:46 AM
Susan Kasaris
Divorced and looking for a nice woman
Dec 1, 2016, 10:44 AM
Kelly Patrick
What do you mean?
Dec 1, 2016, 10:43 AM
Susan Kasaris
I am finding there r many...many men out there in ur situation
Dec 1, 2016, 10:42 AM
Kelly Patrick
Next year. August.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:40 AM
Susan Kasaris
You are still young. R u 40 yet
Dec 1, 2016, 10:40 AM
Kelly Patrick
18.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:39 AM
Susan Kasaris
How many years
Dec 1, 2016, 10:39 AM
Kelly Patrick
It does. I have days I'm hopeful and days I feel like there will never be hope. I feel like I've spent so much of my life already on John.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:37 AM
Susan Kasaris
It does take two to make it togethet
Dec 1, 2016, 10:35 AM
Susan Kasaris
I agree.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:34 AM
Kelly Patrick
It's so sad to me that families have to suffer because of the actions of one person.
Dec 1, 2016, 10:18 AM
Susan Kasaris
Idk
Nov 29, 2016, 1:29 PM
Kelly Patrick
I have hope for them, I really do. It just may take a while and a lot of strength on our parts.
Nov 29, 2016, 1:28 PM
Kelly Patrick
I'm at Verizon seeing if I can get an iphone.
Nov 29, 2016, 1:27 PM
Susan Kasaris
Yes he always says stuff on fat ....uugghn
Nov 29, 2016, 1:27 PM
Susan Kasaris
I have an appt now. Just on my mind.
Nov 29, 2016, 1:27 PM
Kelly Patrick
No, that's when he was over John's when I came to pick kids up.
Nov 29, 2016, 1:27 PM
Susan Kasaris
He didn't have a girlfriend in 2014
Nov 29, 2016, 1:26 PM
Susan Kasaris
Plus the drinking enhances it
Nov 29, 2016, 1:25 PM
Susan Kasaris
All men do!
Nov 29, 2016, 1:25 PM
Susan Kasaris
They like to act like children
Nov 29, 2016, 1:25 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan plays into in....he knows it's wrong....he just plays along
Nov 29, 2016, 1:25 PM
Susan Kasaris
And his Mom for 2 yrs
Nov 29, 2016, 1:24 PM
Kelly Patrick
When they are together they are ruthless. Just mean men.
Nov 29, 2016, 1:24 PM
Susan Kasaris
Once he didn't talk to his friend for 4 urs
Nov 29, 2016, 1:24 PM
Susan Kasaris
He talks crap about everyone when he is mad
Nov 29, 2016, 1:24 PM
Kelly Patrick
Has he apologized?
Nov 29, 2016, 1:24 PM
Susan Kasaris
I guess it really does that matter
Nov 29, 2016, 1:23 PM
Kelly Patrick
That's good. It was 2014.
Nov 29, 2016, 1:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
That was 2012
Nov 29, 2016, 1:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
Because I knew all that stuff. We already talked about all of this is a therapy
Nov 29, 2016, 1:22 PM
Kelly Patrick
He had a girlfriend then.
Nov 29, 2016, 1:22 PM
Susan Kasaris
2010
Nov 29, 2016, 1:21 PM
Kelly Patrick
When did he live with John?
Nov 29, 2016, 1:21 PM
Susan Kasaris
Well because we were then2
Nov 29, 2016, 1:20 PM
Kelly Patrick
You're right. 2014
Nov 29, 2016, 1:20 PM
Susan Kasaris
Are you sure Dan said that stuff summer of 2015? Because we were together then things were going good
Nov 29, 2016, 1:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
Haha . Agree
Nov 28, 2016, 3:44 PM
Kelly Patrick
Good. I appreciate our new friendship. Who would've thought.
Nov 28, 2016, 3:42 PM
Susan Kasaris
Yes :)
Nov 28, 2016, 3:38 PM
Kelly Patrick
Work going well?
Nov 28, 2016, 3:31 PM
Susan Kasaris
Thx. Hope to make one. I am traveling a lot in Dec
Nov 28, 2016, 3:29 PM
Kelly Patrick
Of course you don't have to pay. Get one of the girls to come with you!
Nov 28, 2016, 3:24 PM
Kelly Patrick
Here's a copy of the December schedule
Nov 28, 2016, 3:24 PM
Kelly Patrick
IP Address: 24.252.242.230
Nov 28, 2016, 3:23 PM
Kelly Patrick
As am I. I'm always getting new books to read.
Nov 28, 2016, 3:22 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am no where near perfect. I have my flaws....believe me. I am working on them ;)
Nov 28, 2016, 3:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
Ok. Anytime.
Nov 28, 2016, 1:17 PM
Kelly Patrick
You too Susan. Thank you for today, I needed it.
Nov 28, 2016, 1:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
Oh well. Nice talking. Have a great week. BE strong!
Nov 28, 2016, 1:12 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan was 60 lbs overweight in 2013. I didn't care
Nov 28, 2016, 1:11 PM
Susan Kasaris
See. That is the problem with them. Love is not looks ONLY.
Nov 28, 2016, 1:11 PM
Kelly Patrick
I have. He's been heavy and I've still stayed by his side.
Nov 28, 2016, 1:09 PM
Susan Kasaris
Would you still like John if he gained 50 lbs?
Nov 28, 2016, 1:02 PM
Kelly Patrick
Olmsted falls. On cook rd.
Nov 28, 2016, 1:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know i need to get in shape but I have been so stressed and busy taking care of my girls and working. Time for me!
Nov 28, 2016, 12:47 PM
Susan Kasaris
Where are they
Nov 28, 2016, 12:46 PM
Kelly Patrick
730-830 pm.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:44 PM
Kelly Patrick
Monday and Thursday are the beginner classes. I don't teach them though.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. I have to been b4 but it has been while
Nov 28, 2016, 12:44 PM
Kelly Patrick
I'd get back with John if he took care of himself and his issues.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:44 PM
Kelly Patrick
I have all sorts of classes. You need beginners right?
Nov 28, 2016, 12:43 PM
Kelly Patrick
John has called me a bad mom too. Told me I'm worthless and they don't need me.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:43 PM
Susan Kasaris
Love prevails all
Nov 28, 2016, 12:40 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am not perfect
Nov 28, 2016, 12:40 PM
Susan Kasaris
When is your yoga class? I would like to attend it and where is it
Nov 28, 2016, 12:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan saus a lot of stuff
Nov 28, 2016, 12:38 PM
Susan Kasaris
Lot of stuff. That's the problem that he has. He just says things and off the car and then he turned around and he can take them back.. That is part of his problem
Nov 28, 2016, 12:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
I don't believe Dan said I was a bad mother. That's just insane because I'm not a bad mother
Nov 28, 2016, 12:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know you don't really believe in God but I do.. As I remember you don't but I'm not sure about that.. I know John doesn't
Nov 28, 2016, 12:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
A lot of these issues are because of the way he was raised.. I really don't know the answer.. But God will guide me
Nov 28, 2016, 12:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
We have been together 28 years FYI
Nov 28, 2016, 12:35 PM
Susan Kasaris
Believe me. I am a smart woman.. And this is all going to get worked out.. But eight months is not a long time after 25 years of marriage
Nov 28, 2016, 12:35 PM
Susan Kasaris
Idk what the answer is.. Believe me once I know the answer....I will react but I've always been told if you don't know....wait
Nov 28, 2016, 12:34 PM
Kelly Patrick
I really wish you'd dump Dan's ass. They don't deserve us.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:30 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't know. Usually the kids will tell me when he comes over.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:30 PM
Susan Kasaris
When does he hang out with John?
Nov 28, 2016, 12:13 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am a very smart girl and so are you. We both have a lot to offer
Nov 28, 2016, 12:11 PM
Susan Kasaris
I don't know Kelly. I don't have the answers .all I can do is live my life protect my girls and and try to be happy
Nov 28, 2016, 12:10 PM
Susan Kasaris
He did not go over John's on Thanksgiving
Nov 28, 2016, 12:09 PM
Kelly Patrick
So how will he change if he continues to hang out with John and act like assholes?
Nov 28, 2016, 12:08 PM
Susan Kasaris
But he texts me
Nov 28, 2016, 12:06 PM
Susan Kasaris
He plays the good old boys club with John
Nov 28, 2016, 12:06 PM
Susan Kasaris
Becuz he wants our family life and he is embarrassed by his actions
Nov 28, 2016, 12:05 PM
Kelly Patrick
He's living a double life. He's one man to John and another one to you. He doesn't want John to know this side of him.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:04 PM
Kelly Patrick
John and I once had a good thing too. But it's been more bad years than good.
Nov 28, 2016, 12:04 PM
Susan Kasaris
He didn't want that girl...if he did...why didn't he divorce me?
Nov 28, 2016, 12:04 PM
Susan Kasaris
Idk what I want anymore
Nov 28, 2016, 12:03 PM
Susan Kasaris
The affair was him lashing out over his internal issues
Nov 28, 2016, 12:03 PM
Susan Kasaris
U dont see what we really have b4 the affair
Nov 28, 2016, 12:02 PM
Kelly Patrick
After all this, why do you want him?
Nov 28, 2016, 12:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
It is how u feel
Nov 28, 2016, 12:01 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont care if Dan gains 50 lbs
..I told him that ...looks don't matter to me
Nov 28, 2016, 12:01 PM
Susan Kasaris
Idk....i just don't get it
Nov 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
Han is obsessed with it
Nov 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
Kelly Patrick
Why are they so preoccupied with weight?
Nov 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
I dont care about being a skinny minny.......there are way more important things in life
Nov 28, 2016, 12:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
Seriously kelly.....i am like 15 lbs overweight but I am healthy
Nov 28, 2016, 11:59 AM
Susan Kasaris
Demi didn't talk to Dan for 2 months after that
Nov 28, 2016, 11:59 AM
Kelly Patrick
I saw her fb post.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:59 AM
Susan Kasaris
Melanie is safe at Oosu...fyi
Nov 28, 2016, 11:58 AM
Kelly Patrick
What shitty men they are.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:41 AM
Susan Kasaris
That was the day he left
Nov 28, 2016, 11:33 AM
Kelly Patrick
Omg susan. How fucking horrible. That will stay with her for a long time.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:29 AM
Susan Kasaris
Cried a lot
Nov 28, 2016, 11:28 AM
Kelly Patrick
How did demi react?
Nov 28, 2016, 11:27 AM
Susan Kasaris
Kelly...i am not fat. I know that
Nov 28, 2016, 11:27 AM
Susan Kasaris
Again..improper raising
Nov 28, 2016, 11:26 AM
Susan Kasaris
I know. That is just wrong!
Nov 28, 2016, 11:25 AM
Kelly Patrick
What kind of parent does that?
Nov 28, 2016, 11:24 AM
Susan Kasaris
Correction
Nov 28, 2016, 11:24 AM
Susan Kasaris
*he called demi fat to her face
Nov 28, 2016, 11:23 AM
Kelly Patrick
John says the same stuff about fat people too. Watching too much porn and playboy.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:22 AM
Susan Kasaris
My kids are pissed at him for it
Nov 28, 2016, 11:21 AM
Susan Kasaris
Dan makes fun of fat people constantly. It is just wrong
Nov 28, 2016, 11:19 AM
Susan Kasaris
He is skewed by the media image of women
Nov 28, 2016, 11:19 AM
Susan Kasaris
I do know Dan loves me. He shows ot daily. That said why it is difficult
Nov 28, 2016, 11:18 AM
Susan Kasaris
Idk why this happens. It sucks
Nov 28, 2016, 11:18 AM
Kelly Patrick
I'm better off without John. I don't really know why this is my life, dealing with him.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:15 AM
Susan Kasaris
Just more bad raising issues
Nov 28, 2016, 11:15 AM
Susan Kasaris
Oh brother
Nov 28, 2016, 11:14 AM
Kelly Patrick
And of course they blamed you for buying bad food and making them fat.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:14 AM
Susan Kasaris
He called demi family to her face on Easter and they got in a big figbt
Nov 28, 2016, 11:14 AM
Kelly Patrick
He is fat!!!
Nov 28, 2016, 11:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
He has self confidence issues
Nov 28, 2016, 11:13 AM
Kelly Patrick
Yep, calls Demi and Melanie fat all the time.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
He is fat..lol
Nov 28, 2016, 11:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
His daughters are fat? Wth
Nov 28, 2016, 11:13 AM
Kelly Patrick
He sat in John's backyard eating shit food complaining about how fat you and his daughters are and how he is working out and taking care of himself.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:12 AM
Susan Kasaris
Last summer we were together
Nov 28, 2016, 11:11 AM
Susan Kasaris
Dan has other issues
Nov 28, 2016, 11:09 AM
Kelly Patrick
No, last summer.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:09 AM
Susan Kasaris
When was that...in 2012
Nov 28, 2016, 11:09 AM
Kelly Patrick
That's what Dan told me he wanted too.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:09 AM
Kelly Patrick
Of course he is. That's all he ever wanted was sex, no relationship or connection with anyone. And there will be women who jump all over him. He has no shortage of women to fuck.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:08 AM
Susan Kasaris
Idk. He is probably ly suppressing his feelings
Nov 28, 2016, 11:07 AM
Kelly Patrick
Fucking loser. He's 51 and that's what he aspires to be.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:07 AM
Susan Kasaris
That he just wants sex.....no drama
Nov 28, 2016, 11:06 AM
Kelly Patrick
What?
Nov 28, 2016, 11:03 AM
Susan Kasaris
That is what John told Dan
Nov 28, 2016, 11:03 AM
Kelly Patrick
That's what they want. Someone to fuck and not tell them what to do.
Nov 28, 2016, 11:00 AM
Susan Kasaris
Again...the media image of women
Nov 28, 2016, 10:59 AM
Kelly Patrick
They both did. They'll never find women to tolerate them.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:39 AM
Susan Kasaris
That is crazy. He constantly told me I was a good Mom. Typical stuff that guys say when they have ever an affair. He messed himself up
Nov 28, 2016, 10:37 AM
Kelly Patrick
Crazy is what I've always heard. Your family is fucked up they say. He isn't attracted to you, he thinks you're fat and lazy. He thinks you're not a good mom, isn't sexually attracted to you. Had to find another girl to see if the problem was him or you, turns out he said it was you. He is better off without you he would say. Blames you for the girls not wanting to be around him, at the time he left.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:33 AM
Susan Kasaris
What does Dan say..I can handle it
Nov 28, 2016, 10:30 AM
Kelly Patrick
You're giving me my strength back!! Fuck John and his drama. My life is much much better without him involved.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:29 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes.i agree
Nov 28, 2016, 10:28 AM
Kelly Patrick
John says I'm controlling too. And we aren't. It's because they've never had anyone to teach them right and wrong and here we are stable people and they can't handle it. Pat never enforced rules.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:28 AM
Susan Kasaris
I'm sure I already know
Nov 28, 2016, 10:28 AM
Kelly Patrick
You sure you want to know?
Nov 28, 2016, 10:27 AM
Susan Kasaris
What does he say about me
Nov 28, 2016, 10:27 AM
Kelly Patrick
Thank you for listening. It's been a hard day and hard night last night.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:27 AM
Susan Kasaris
Oh. I see
Nov 28, 2016, 10:26 AM
Kelly Patrick
Repeat what? And I don't tell John anything anymore. You happened to message me around the same time John and Dan were fucking with me. I thought they had gotten you involved too.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:25 AM
Susan Kasaris
He says I am controlling...i know
Nov 28, 2016, 10:25 AM
Susan Kasaris
Please dont repeat..please
Nov 28, 2016, 10:24 AM
Kelly Patrick
This was when you first messaged me a while ago.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:24 AM
Susan Kasaris
Anyhow...he talked poorly of me the 1st time around...i know
Nov 28, 2016, 10:24 AM
Susan Kasaris
I thought u said you were not going to tell John.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:23 AM
Kelly Patrick
Susan, Dan blames you for it all. Even to this day. I don't talk to him anymore but up until I did he talked very poorly of you. And when I mentioned to John a while ago that you had reached about to me, he balked and said she's crazy.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:22 AM
Susan Kasaris
Pat intervened in our marriage from the start....saying dan was not allowed to invite Jack to our wedding or she would not attend. We should not have listened
Nov 28, 2016, 10:22 AM
Susan Kasaris
Mmmmmmm.....that is interesting.........I never thought that
Nov 28, 2016, 10:20 AM
Kelly Patrick
John blames me. Dan blames you.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:17 AM
Susan Kasaris
Pat never recovered from her divorce and blamed everyone else
Nov 28, 2016, 10:17 AM
Susan Kasaris
Jack has mental problems
Nov 28, 2016, 10:16 AM
Kelly Patrick
They'd end up like John and Dan. Pat didn't give them many valuable life lessons and Jack is a loser.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:13 AM
Susan Kasaris
Just think if our kids did not have us!
Nov 28, 2016, 10:12 AM
Susan Kasaris
You are correct
Nov 28, 2016, 10:12 AM
Kelly Patrick
But really that's all we do have, someone has to be the strong parent.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:11 AM
Susan Kasaris
They are suppressing their true feelings
Nov 28, 2016, 10:10 AM
Susan Kasaris
I know you are probably sick of hearing that...i know i am
Nov 28, 2016, 10:09 AM
Susan Kasaris
Your kids are beautiful. Be strong..they have you!
Nov 28, 2016, 10:08 AM
Kelly Patrick
John's the opposite, he ignores me. Won't make eye contact, won't talk to me.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:08 AM
Susan Kasaris
He was texting me the entire day!
Nov 28, 2016, 10:08 AM
Susan Kasaris
The holidays will do that..I know. I had an outburst myself
Nov 28, 2016, 10:07 AM
Kelly Patrick
You're right. I don't have many angry days like this but after holding Kyla last night I got pissed.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:06 AM
Susan Kasaris
I am working on myself. It is all we can do
Nov 28, 2016, 10:05 AM
Kelly Patrick
The kids always get the brunt of this drama.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:05 AM
Susan Kasaris
She did not experience the family life that the other girls had
Nov 28, 2016, 10:04 AM
Susan Kasaris
I know. I'm sorry. Alyssa is all upset too
Nov 28, 2016, 10:03 AM
Kelly Patrick
Horrible Susan. Kyla broke down yesterday sobbing hard about all of this. It makes me so angry at him for hurting our family like this.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:01 AM
Susan Kasaris
It hurts..I know!
Nov 28, 2016, 10:01 AM
Susan Kasaris
I understand. It is sad.
Nov 28, 2016, 10:00 AM
Kelly Patrick
I'm mad because it's his issues that are blocking us from being a family. He's an asshole and all he cares about is his alcohol.
Nov 28, 2016, 9:59 AM
Kelly Patrick
I won't. That's good that Dan is getting help.
Nov 28, 2016, 9:59 AM
Susan Kasaris
Please dont repeat
Nov 28, 2016, 9:58 AM
Susan Kasaris
Why r u mad at him
Nov 28, 2016, 9:57 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes.he has been in counseling for awhile
Nov 28, 2016, 9:57 AM
Kelly Patrick
Dan is getting help??
Nov 28, 2016, 9:54 AM
Susan Kasaris
They play with our emotions!
Nov 28, 2016, 9:54 AM
Susan Kasaris
That is good...you were strong!
Nov 28, 2016, 9:53 AM
Susan Kasaris
Dan is messed up . He is seeking help and I am happy about that
Nov 28, 2016, 9:53 AM
Kelly Patrick
I didn't. I worked all weekend. John invited me over but I said no. It was hard. And I'm in a bad mood today, mad at him.
Nov 28, 2016, 9:50 AM
Susan Kasaris
Hello. It was nice. How was urs. Did u have the kids
Nov 28, 2016, 9:42 AM
Kelly Patrick
How was your thanksgiving? Dan come around? Anything getting better?
Nov 28, 2016, 9:06 AM
Kelly Patrick
I do now. Took me years to figure that out.
Oct 27, 2016, 1:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
Kelly, I hope you know that isn't true.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:57 PM
Kelly Patrick
He would tell me I'm needy and insecure if I wanted him to say I love you and that I looked good.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:56 PM
Susan Kasaris
You dont deserve that
Oct 27, 2016, 12:56 PM
Kelly Patrick
I fell into that trap again this past time I tried with John. He wouldn't tell me I looked good or that he loved me. But he'd want sex.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:54 PM
Susan Kasaris
I take care of myself and eat right. That is all I care about
Oct 27, 2016, 12:49 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan wouldn't tell me I'm fat.....but he would infer it
Oct 27, 2016, 12:47 PM
Susan Kasaris
OMG! that is insane. I hope you realize it isn't true. Riduculous
Oct 27, 2016, 12:46 PM
Kelly Patrick
Oh for sure. John's obsessed with porn. John would tell me all the time how bad I looked and would have to stop eating or start working out more. I have had years of self esteem issues because of all that.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:45 PM
Susan Kasaris
They are jaded by the Internet fake women
Oct 27, 2016, 12:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
I was a size 8 when I met him. Strange.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:44 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am a size 10..... or size 12 my whole life. How funny
Oct 27, 2016, 12:43 PM
Susan Kasaris
Yeah. Dan thinks I'm fat. I'm like take a look at all these 50 yr olds .....whatever. lol
Oct 27, 2016, 12:42 PM
Kelly Patrick
That made me laugh. They don't talk about this kind of shit. They bash women and fat people whenever I've been around them.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:41 PM
Susan Kasaris
Really??? I thought Dan told John. My bad for thinking they actually talked about it...
Oct 27, 2016, 12:40 PM
Kelly Patrick
I had no idea. No idea.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:39 PM
Susan Kasaris
I was so stressed out...i had 4 babies.......it was crazy
Oct 27, 2016, 12:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
She didn't want Dan to go and was trying to get me to sway him
Oct 27, 2016, 12:37 PM
Susan Kasaris
She never told u that? About Jack? This was in all b4 2000....and also I remember in 2002 when u were having summer picnic....she refused o go and called me and told me I better not go
Oct 27, 2016, 12:37 PM
Kelly Patrick
So perhaps Pat is a bit controlling then??
Oct 27, 2016, 12:23 PM
Susan Kasaris
I should have been listening to my husband!
Oct 27, 2016, 12:21 PM
Susan Kasaris
She didn't want Dan talking to Jack. It caused many..many issues. My mistake for listening to her
Oct 27, 2016, 12:21 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan knows
Oct 27, 2016, 12:20 PM
Susan Kasaris
For years
Oct 27, 2016, 12:20 PM
Susan Kasaris
YES
Oct 27, 2016, 12:20 PM
Kelly Patrick
Pat tried to keep you away??
Oct 27, 2016, 12:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
And to keep dan away
Oct 27, 2016, 12:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
She used to call and say NOT to speak to Jack or John or jarred......for hours
Oct 27, 2016, 12:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
It is all underlined about his family and how Pat kept me away
Oct 27, 2016, 12:18 PM
Susan Kasaris
I know. I know..we talked about it all in counselling
Oct 27, 2016, 12:17 PM
Kelly Patrick
No. Right after he left the first time. A few years ago.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:16 PM
Susan Kasaris
This year?
Oct 27, 2016, 12:15 PM
Kelly Patrick
I don't really want to repeat it. It wasn't pleasant at all. We actually went out to dinner shortly after he left, he wanted advice on how to handle the girls.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:11 PM
Susan Kasaris
That I am controlling?
Oct 27, 2016, 12:04 PM
Susan Kasaris
What did Dan say
Oct 27, 2016, 12:03 PM
Kelly Patrick
That's why John fell in love with me too, but they learn to resent it the deeper they get into their pit of self despair. I've heard the things Dan has said about you, I can't even imagine what John says about me.
Oct 27, 2016, 12:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
Mmmmmmm......not sure that is it. I know Dan fell in love with me because I am strong and independent . I am still pondering this controlling idea they have.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:57 AM
Kelly Patrick
There is no way they want to accept that you and I are strong and independent women.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:53 AM
Kelly Patrick
But they grew up seeing that so women don't deserve respect and appreciation.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:52 AM
Kelly Patrick
As far as I know Jack and Manuel bossed Pat around.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:52 AM
Susan Kasaris
That is the part I don't understand. Not sure where they get that from. Did Pat tell Jack what to do? Weird
Oct 27, 2016, 11:45 AM
Kelly Patrick
I talked to her when she was up here last month, she knows she has to be done with him. John referred to me as some woman trying to tell him what to do. Therefore he hates me and most women.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:43 AM
Susan Kasaris
That is sad. If only John could see that. They have it in their minds that that dot want anyone controlling them. I don't know why they think it is controlling. It is a family. It is supposed to be a unit that works together. Maybe because Pat pulled it apart.....even after the divorce? idk. Then she got back with him which is totally a shocker
Oct 27, 2016, 11:34 AM
Kelly Patrick
My kids see John every weekend. Brayden will sometimes do what John is doing, working around the house or yard, but Kyla sits by herself playing on the computer or his phone. She already told me when she gets older she won't want to go over his house because she's so bored. He doesn't do anything with them, other than sometimes takes them to target and buys them new toys.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:29 AM
Susan Kasaris
Not like Pat did
Oct 27, 2016, 11:21 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. My girls are upset. They wouldn't talk to him for 2 mths. He is there Dad so I NEVER told them not to see him.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:21 AM
Susan Kasaris
It must be very hard on them. I know it is the hardest on Alyssa
Oct 27, 2016, 11:19 AM
Susan Kasaris
The kids see who is there for them I thought John had the kids every weekend and spent a lot of time with them
Oct 27, 2016, 11:17 AM
Kelly Patrick
Demi told me early on when Dan first left that she was pissed at him and wouldn't go over to his apartment. That's when she was starting to separate herself from you guys and pushed more into James' direction.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:15 AM
Kelly Patrick
Thank you, I think so too. They have beautiful souls too. They hate living apart, it's been hard for them. John doesn't get it and it makes me so angry, but I've had to step back and let him destroy his relationship with them while the relationship they have with me is strengthened.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:14 AM
Susan Kasaris
Your kids are so beautiful
Oct 27, 2016, 11:04 AM
Susan Kasaris
How are your kids taking it?
Oct 27, 2016, 11:04 AM
Kelly Patrick
Makes total sense. Broken family is nothing to them.
Oct 27, 2016, 11:01 AM
Susan Kasaris
*studied
Oct 27, 2016, 10:49 AM
Susan Kasaris
I have stusied all of this in counseling and from my Psychology class........it is all in the family dynamics
Oct 27, 2016, 10:49 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. I agree. The problem is they think it is normal to break up family because that is how they were raised
Oct 27, 2016, 10:47 AM
Kelly Patrick
It'd be nice if they got help instead of destroying their families.
Oct 27, 2016, 10:46 AM
Susan Kasaris
I just woke up and saw this
Oct 27, 2016, 10:36 AM
Susan Kasaris
I am surprised Brayden had the same dream!
Oct 27, 2016, 10:35 AM
Susan Kasaris
Hi. This dream is your subconscious. In your heart...you want them both to work in themselves. The part about John running tells me that he won't face help.
Oct 27, 2016, 10:34 AM
Kelly Patrick
Had a dream that I was yelling at John and Dan about their drinking ruining the families. My alarm interrupted my dream and when we woke up I told the kids I was in the middle of yelling when my alarm went off. Brayden said he had a similar dream last night that we had a guy come in to the house to help John and Dan and John tried to run, so Brayden blocked him from leaving the house. How weird is that?!?
Oct 27, 2016, 7:18 AM
Kelly Patrick
Who knows if it's true.
Oct 8, 2016, 4:49 PM
Susan Kasaris
I didnt hear that about Tom. Autumn is with Mel a lot
Oct 8, 2016, 4:49 PM
Kelly Patrick
You'd think. But it's easier to hide than face the truth.
Oct 8, 2016, 4:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
They are adults
Oct 8, 2016, 4:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
They have to face their issues
Oct 8, 2016, 4:19 PM
Kelly Patrick
They are all wounded and beaten up. By Jack, Manuel, and Pat. It's sad
Oct 8, 2016, 4:18 PM
Kelly Patrick
And I hear Tom's kids are already rebelling and complaining about their dad.
Oct 8, 2016, 4:18 PM
Susan Kasaris
Dan bought me flowers the day he left
Oct 8, 2016, 4:17 PM
Kelly Patrick
Paul does not have it all. Like John, they act like they do but behind closed doors is a different story.
Oct 8, 2016, 4:17 PM
Susan Kasaris
Every one is different. I am totally different then my siblings
Oct 8, 2016, 4:14 PM
Susan Kasaris
I thought Dan & I had it all.
Oct 8, 2016, 4:13 PM
Susan Kasaris
Paul seems to have it all
Oct 8, 2016, 4:12 PM
Kelly Patrick
Tom, Paul, and Julie have their issues. I've had many conversations with Paul.
Oct 8, 2016, 4:11 PM
Susan Kasaris
That is all you can do. I understand. Believe me...i do! I believe this all stems from family upbringing and the lack of a strong Father figure in their lives. But then I look at Tom and Paul and rethink it all over.
Oct 8, 2016, 4:11 PM
Kelly Patrick
Yeah I was hopeful and focused. But it kept falling apart no matter what I did. Have a good afternoon. For what it's worth, I'm glad we're talking.
Oct 8, 2016, 12:27 PM
Susan Kasaris
I have to cut the grass now
Oct 8, 2016, 12:26 PM
Susan Kasaris
I'm sorry to hear that he won't oblige. You seemed so close at Christmas.
Oct 8, 2016, 12:24 PM
Kelly Patrick
I've worked the Al-anon program and they say to never give up hope. But I can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves. He said to me recently that he's not letting some woman tell him what to do. Some woman being me. He will drink and do what he wants he says.
Oct 8, 2016, 12:19 PM
Susan Kasaris
I understand
Oct 8, 2016, 12:17 PM
Kelly Patrick
I've given up hope. I lost myself trying to help him.
Oct 8, 2016, 12:15 PM
Susan Kasaris
I have prayed for Dans family many many times
Oct 8, 2016, 12:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
*hands
Oct 8, 2016, 12:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am putting this in God's hamds
Oct 8, 2016, 12:01 PM
Kelly Patrick
No. He won't talk to me at all.
Oct 8, 2016, 11:54 AM
Susan Kasaris
Mmmmm..I am seeing similarities. Does John text you about memories of the two of you?
Oct 8, 2016, 11:48 AM
Kelly Patrick
She knows she can't talk to John, that's why she's more open with me. John doesn't know how to communicate with anyone.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:48 PM
Susan Kasaris
*doesn't go directly to the issue
Oct 7, 2016, 12:47 PM
Susan Kasaris
She the kind of person who directly to the problem but talk to people around the problem and hope it gets resolved. Unfortunately she should be going directly to John not you she's trying to talk through you....Dan does it all the time.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:47 PM
Kelly Patrick
Agreed. However I don't think either of them would listen to Pat. I know John wouldn't. He doesn't talk to her or help her at all. She came up a few weeks ago and we talked for 2 hrs at Brayden's football game. She knows John has issues but she can't say anything. Everyone shunned me when I brought up all this stuff years ago. Julie was the worst.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:36 PM
Susan Kasaris
I feel like if Pat would intervene it would help . They never had a strong Father figure.....this is the root of it
Oct 7, 2016, 12:32 PM
Kelly Patrick
I tried to help John for too long. Wasted my life away. I have come to terms that it may never work and I deserve much better.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:24 PM
Susan Kasaris
If Dan wants to throw his life away then that's his issue. I've done all I can .......it takes two
Oct 7, 2016, 12:21 PM
Kelly Patrick
Me too. I'm moving forward with my life and whatever happens will happen.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:17 PM
Susan Kasaris
I leave it in God's hands. I am thankful for my beautiful family and my health.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:16 PM
Susan Kasaris
My friend is in the samel boat with her husband.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:15 PM
Kelly Patrick
I had to get out. John is falling apart and he doesn't care about anything but his alcohol.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:12 PM
Kelly Patrick
They're both messed up.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:12 PM
Susan Kasaris
At the same time he texts me about our life together
Oct 7, 2016, 12:09 PM
Susan Kasaris
I am sure Dan is bad mouthing me but he doesn't understand that he is nothing without me. I supported him for 29 years....
Oct 7, 2016, 12:09 PM
Susan Kasaris
I understand.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:07 PM
Kelly Patrick
Not awkward at all. They both use alcohol in unproductive ways. That's why John doesn't want me in his life because I want him to face his issues and he wants to hide behind the alcohol. So the two of them together they can drink and bash women and pretend they're happy. I know you've been married a long time but the things they've said about me and you....they don't deserve us.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:07 PM
Susan Kasaris
I wanted to get info on your yoga class. I think it would help me. If you feel that would be awkward....I understand
Oct 7, 2016, 12:05 PM
Susan Kasaris
He uses alcohol to suppress his true feelings
Oct 7, 2016, 12:02 PM
Kelly Patrick
So is John. They know how to work us
Oct 7, 2016, 12:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
He is playing with my emotions
Oct 7, 2016, 12:02 PM
Kelly Patrick
He went over one day with Alyssa and passed out at 830. The kids told me when they got back to my house that dan was drunk and fell asleep at 830. John laughed when I told him what the kids said.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:02 PM
Susan Kasaris
Oh brother
Oct 7, 2016, 12:01 PM
Kelly Patrick
Never. I don't talk to either of them. Dan tried to friend request me one day he was at John's house but I don't need either of them snooping in my life.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:01 PM
Susan Kasaris
Probably
Oct 7, 2016, 12:00 PM
Kelly Patrick
I think they're both enabling each other.
Oct 7, 2016, 12:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
Please don't repeat this
Oct 7, 2016, 12:00 PM
Susan Kasaris
I think we are better together then apart
Oct 7, 2016, 11:59 AM
Susan Kasaris
Idk what is wrong with him. He keeps texting. He wants me in his life but doesn't live here.
Oct 7, 2016, 11:59 AM
Kelly Patrick
Yep. Are you and Dan done for good?
Oct 7, 2016, 11:57 AM
Susan Kasaris
I know you tried. That is ALL you can do.
Oct 7, 2016, 11:57 AM
Kelly Patrick
I tried. I really did. He's on his own path that doesn't include me.
Oct 7, 2016, 11:55 AM
Susan Kasaris
I'm doing good. Busy with real estate and my Auction.com job. I travel occasional with work now so it is nice. I didn't know about John
Oct 7, 2016, 11:53 AM
Kelly Patrick
How have you been doing? I don't talk to John or Dan anymore.
Oct 7, 2016, 11:48 AM
Susan Kasaris
I know...right!
Oct 7, 2016, 11:47 AM
Kelly Patrick
I'm sure I probably wouldn't have listened to my parents either.
Oct 7, 2016, 11:46 AM
Susan Kasaris
Yes. I am happy for them. She will be 25 so glad for that too. I know it is young but it is her decision. I do wish she would experience life on her own more but your children don't always listen
Oct 7, 2016, 11:45 AM
Kelly Patrick
Are you supportive of them getting married so young? I was 23 when I married John. Too young and too naive.
Oct 7, 2016, 11:42 AM
Susan Kasaris
I know!!! Me neither James treats her great
Oct 7, 2016, 11:42 AM
Kelly Patrick
Wow. Hard to believe how fast they're growing. I can't believe Demi is engaged.
Oct 7, 2016, 11:41 AM
Susan Kasaris
She is going to drive soon!
Oct 7, 2016, 11:40 AM
Susan Kasaris
She is going to homecoming this week. So exciting!
Oct 7, 2016, 11:39 AM
Kelly Patrick
That was very nice of you, I really appreciated that. I've never been at John's while Dan and Alyssa are there but the kids tells me they have fun with her.
Oct 7, 2016, 11:38 AM
Susan Kasaris
Alyssa just loves spending time with your kids
Oct 7, 2016, 11:36 AM
Susan Kasaris
Hi Kelly, I saw the pic and thought it was beautiful.
Oct 7, 2016, 11:35 AM
Kelly Patrick
What made you reach out?
Oct 7, 2016, 11:34 AM
Kelly Patrick
Thank you! That's nice of you to say.
Oct 7, 2016, 7:24 AM
Kelly Patrick
You can now call each other and see information like Active Status and when you've read messages.
Oct 7, 2016, 7:24 AM
Susan Kasaris
That is a beautiful profile pic of you and the kids
Oct 6, 2016, 10:56 PM